Venezuela

Recorded: Jan. 3, 2026 Duration: 0:50:48
Space Recording

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In a lively discussion, participants explored the geopolitical landscape surrounding Venezuela's recent political upheaval, emphasizing its vast natural resources and the implications for global markets, particularly in the crypto space. The conversation also touched on the trends in Web3 development in Dubai, signaling a growing interest in the region's potential as a crypto hub.

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Musicチャンネル登録よろしくお願いします Thank you. you
yo what's up sir pepe yo what's up alex how's everything bro
how's how the vibes in uh dubai how's it going over there
damn i couldn't unmute uh no it's going all right yo where's books at i haven't seen books in like 48 hours oh he quit he quit uh that explains everything what time is it for you right now
in the states 9 42 in new york bro it's late already i know i don't know when the i don't
know when the right time to start it is i don't know if i'm starting it's late already i know i don't know when the i don't know when the right time to start it
is i don't know if i'm starting it too late too early i don't know this this whole time zone
shit's pissing me off but i do see that stuff is no good alex what happened with venezuela
venezuela uh well present with venezuela i think next weekend it's colombia
I think next weekend it's Colombia.
Yeah, that's from what I understand.
What the fuck?
Double posted this.
I don't understand this fucking app.
I might have to restart this.
Okay, let me know.
I saw that we captured the Venezuelan president.
Yeah, he was a drug dealer.
Drug dealer Maduro.
Is that what they're saying?
That's what it was.
What is he drug dealing?
Anything that could get America's high.
Nah, you...
Then why...
Then why didn't they come after a Colombian president?
Well, he's next.
Hold my beer, he said.
No one in Venezuela even wants that president.
The Colombian president was elected, so we're good.
You see, he's kosher because the people elected him.
He's good.
Wait, the Venezuelan president wasn't elected?
No, no, the Colombian one.
The Colombian one.
I know, but the Venezuelan one wasn't?
Listen, you sent a message
to colombia just by what he did with maduro so he's like yo chill with that
wait for me to leave then you can do whatever the you want but right now chill
you know you don't want no drama he saw it it took venezuela about an hour it could take
colombia for like 30 minutes because we're already in there, you know, we already know Colombia in and out
Think it's best you stay over there in Dubai for like a couple of months
You think so you think about to be like a war in Colombia and
Thing it was like a little mini event, you know, nothing crazy. I saw some bombs got set off and shit.
Yeah, you know, you got to take down the satellites, you know, the big satellites.
What war is no war?
He's already here in New York because they're going to bring him to New York.
Yeah, he's got a federal case in New York, in the Southern District over here.
And he should be here right now in New York City, as a matter of fact.
So they'll probably bring him to Brooklyn or Manhattan.
You know, who knows? The federal jail's over here.
Him and the wife.
Him and the wife.
What, you don't like, you don't like what happened?
Where's everyone today? God damn it.
Space got bared. Fuck.
Definitely got botted.
I got Sofia as the listener. Roman as the listener.
I'm just creeped up. I'm up here, man.
No, don't be the speaker.
Oh, Ronnie, man.
What's up?
I know that Venezuelan president, he's a drug dealer, man.
It's funny he got took back to America within an hour after meeting a Chinese delegates about heavy oil rights.
Oil rights.
Dude, he's in a meeting with the Chinese
government like 90 minutes
before the fucking SWAT.
The tier one
team come in and took him out, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah. Look at Alex.
Alex, they're having hot, bro.
That's me mentioning that, bro.
I'm taking this down.
Bro, Dubai, I got to get their tech together, man.
Look at this.
I think I'm good now.
I don't know what happened there.
Bro, they can't build a decent fucking cell tower
if they build the biggest tallest building in the world.
They can't build a tower. Makes no sense If they build the biggest, tallest building in the world, they can't build a tower.
It makes no sense.
I don't get it.
The Wi-Fi is awful here, and so is the mobile.
It makes no sense.
It's the newest city in the world,
and they can't get good cellular service and Wi-Fi?
Come on, man.
So you said they're just sending warning shots towards Colombia
is what's going on?
You see, you can send a message.
You don't need to go to war.
They show Colombia, hey, chill, you know, relax.
Don't need for this unless you really want it.
You know, and stop letting the Chinese into Latin America like that so easily.
So, you know, they got to be careful.
So they got him in New York already, huh?
Yeah, he's probably already here in New York.
They kidnapped him, him and his wife?
Is that what happened?
No, they didn't kidnap them.
They just got him.
They got him.
That's not a kidnap.
They're not asking for that.
Well, I mean, they went in with like a tier one team
and that free Black Hawk helicopter.
So I imagine...
I don't know what that's classed as to Pepe.
Is that class as a kid?
Extraction, I'd call it, dude.
Extraction.
There you go.
That's the word.
Yeah, man.
It's an extraction, dude.
That's how you extract the enemies.
That's like Panama.
Remember Panama? Yeah, are you that old like Panama. Remember Panama?
Are you that old?
Do you remember Panama?
Remember when they went in after being larding.
Holy shit.
Yeah, yeah.
They actually, like, written out of the cough.
Well, the Black Hawk was down on it, man.
They blew it up on the white heart.
Yeah, these motherfuckers.
They know where everyone is, bro.
They know where Alex is at right now, bro, you know?
They know everything. Yeah, they know where everyone is, bro. They know where Alex is at right now, bro. They know everything.
Yeah, they know where.
They know what's up, man.
If they come for you, bro, I ain't bothered if you'm like the Medellin cartel,
the Venezuelan cartel, the Mexican cartel.
You do not want those tier one teams after you.
You might as well just leave.
You might as well move to the moon they're gonna
be asking these americans they end up in medellin like what are you doing over there you know what
i mean they're all like probably under investigation
no if they were smart if they were smart if they were smart they would work with someone like me
like oh look at this ex-military guy out in the hills in Colombia. He knows more about this fucking place than anyone If they were
Yeah, that's true. That's that is true
I'm sure we don't have you know
More capable people but yeah, you're right
I trained I trained the people you know, I'm saying
I Yeah, yeah. I need some copies left. I'm laughing. You saw Venezuela, the way they were getting trained.
They're all happy now in Venezuela, though.
A lot of people are happy.
Man, I'll tell you what.
Venezuela just gets the shit end of the stick everywhere, huh?
No, no, no, no.
They got the biggest fucking reserve of oil.
They're like the richest country in Latin America, bro.
They're the richest and they're the poorest.
I don't get it.
Okay, so now they're going to be free to do whatever the hell they got to do to, you know.
You think it was just the president?
Do you think it was just the president causing all this poverty?
One person can do all that, huh?
One person?
Yeah, bro.
He knows how to spread the wealth where he needs to spread it.
And, you know, everybody shuts the fuck just you know falls online you know that's it
it's it's the quality of the oil they had as well i mean they got they got the heavy oil
is that good or bad yeah well there's three different types of all this heavy medium and light and the heavy oil is the one that the the russians have got basically and there's like only so many
parts of the globe you can get it from venezuela is a got the biggest all reserves of every all
outside of russia which is convenient dude i mean like you know, America's got a lot of, like, medium crude and, like, light crude, but the heavy stuff, the thick black stuff
is Venezuelan.
And I think they started messing around with the oil rights, dude.
They had a Chinese contingent of emissaries in the country yesterday
walking around with the president, and then he gets extracted
90 minutes later, dude.
I mean, he's just fucking wild, bro. He's it's what you know about drugs or fentanyl man you know you know what it's all about man
i'm saying too much. I've silenced the crowd.
Alex, what are you doing in Dubai, bro?
You're working for BC Casino?
You've got someone else lined up.
You're working for Astar.
What's the play, bro?
Web3's quiet, man.
What's the play, bro?
What's coming up?
You've got some alpha.
You're in Dubai.
It's like one of the capitals of crypto, dude.
What's coming up, bro, in crypto dude um what's coming up bro in 2026
i think they got him running man i think they got him
finally a free venezuela i'll tell you that much. You see? People are not, you know,
they're good with that.
I'm a first generation Cuban American.
My parents fled communism from Cuba after Fidel Castro took over.
So communism is
a bad shit for everybody.
The whole country
is still struggling. It's still under
communism. I'm speaking about Cuba.
So the fact that Venezuela is free now, that's a big W for all Venezuelans.
Yeah, now I got it. Don't worry. We're in New York City. We're about to go through it.
So, you know, we'll get a taste of it also soon enough.
You know, we got Mom Dani over here.
Get your story and learn your education, brother. Yeah. got mom daniel over here
get your story and learn your education brother cuba's under because of the u.s
i don't know i'm not cuban well i'm in the uk so we'm sort of like under
communism right now um i don't listen to last for i don't know
how long it's gonna last for the u.s is under communism controlled by israeli elites
oh there we go are we going down that road oh no no let's go let's go why do you think they want
venezuela they don't they don't care about the drugs they want the oil they're getting ready
to start a war a world global war they need that oil they can't have russia or china or iran have that oil
they need it if they if they plan on winning the war we're at war we're about to with who
iran russia and china well that's that's why you have yes that's you know that's why i've always
said yeah we need israel over. You know, because if,
let's say Iran,
we're like in Iran in like five minutes.
You know, that's the facts.
You can't,
there's no denying that.
The necessary evil.
Like people talk about wars.
It's just like a game of chess, skirmirmishes and that's how it's going to be
for the next like you know going forward into the future you're going to get these messing around
with communication networks satellites fucking skirmishes and power struggles everywhere across
the globe and that's that's basically it's like an unseen war that women um that's how it's going
to be man you know what i mean fucking these countries can're in. That's how it's going to be, man. You know what I mean? Fucking...
These countries can't go fully to war.
Like, it's just like a zero-sum game.
Like, no one wins.
You know what I mean?
So, we get this power struggle, this game of chess,
this fucking hidden skirmishes and shadows and shit like that.
And psyops and, you know what I mean?
So, programming and, you know what I mean so programming and you know what i mean
it's fucking tiresome really boys so i can understand why nobody uses the internet you
know if you come on x like can you go on like all these social media platforms it's like
99 bots to like 1 real people because i think like a lot of people have like sort of shut
themselves off to it man you know i think a lot of people spend as much time on socials as what we think they do to be fair alpha saying let's go well for saying or office saying it's here bro
it was good how you doing um yeah that's the news is crazy the guy looks like pablo escobar
like i'm waiting for the netflix series to be honest uh that's like all all she wrote and it's
crazy that the us.s could just go
and just go grab anybody they want uh especially a president from another country so like like
imagine you're like a venezuelan citizen or like a young kid and you see like the u.s having so
much power and like what would you think that you know what i mean so it's just like
i don't know like you know i mean i'm an american citizen and i'm a proud american citizen but i
don't i'm not proud of like just bombing for even even if they're bringing drugs into the country
that yeah that's not the way to go that's my opinion on that 100% more diplomatic they tried
a million ways they tried a million ways before this they've tried a million gazillion ways
for decades how can you tell someone okay you see it i ways for decades. How can you tell someone?
Okay. I love when people say that. Can you tell me how they, how they tried?
Well, we didn't bomb them 20, 30 years ago.
No, no. So, so, so yeah. So before this guy Maduro, there was Chavez, right? And not many people know that, but their GDP was 10 times better than it was for the United States. They
were doing so well.
Their economy was booming.
But, you know, of course, the U.S. and the elites wanted to get cheaper prices for oils.
They wanted to get ExxonMobil in there.
And they said, listen, we're going to charge you the price that we want to charge you
so our country can be prosperous.
And they didn't like that.
So they started giving them sanctions, sanctions, backed by more sanctions.
And, of course, what do you think was going to be the result result an economy that was just going to go on a decline and then that continued
on with maduro it wasn't because venezuela was on you know controlled by corruption it was because
us was putting sanctions on them now they were sending too much too many drugs and they were
also like this is a this is a trump this is a trump classic right he's getting
he's getting um a mineral or some asset from this and and the propaganda is that the the picture is
being painted that maduro is doing it for drugs but like we all know that drugs in south america
has been a thing for ages, for multiple years. So like
this propaganda is about something bigger than drugs. It's some asset that Donald Trump wants.
And we all, I believe in all this stupid propaganda shit, right? Because we're in
crypto Twitter and we're in this. So yeah, especially from higher government, it's all
white mirrors. And we don't know the true story and we don't know what true asset that the American American United States wants.
Right. So, like, even in during the Ukraine Russia war, Donald Trump would end the war if Ukraine will give him special mineral assets.
Right. So, like that that war itself is another propaganda like, you know.
So like that war itself is another propaganda.
Like, you know.
Yeah, I believe that they had some type of agreement where they were doing business with China offshore drilling.
And that's why the U.S. went in.
They had sanctions on them and they were still not obliging by the sanctions.
So that I guess the U.S. said that's enough.
You know, China's getting oil from there.
And they were filtering it and selling it, distributing it to throughout the Caribbean.
From what I understand, they were shipping it to someplace in the Caribbean, refining it.
And that was cheapening their cost since they were getting it from Russia.
And also the drugs that were being that Venezuela was trafficking, they're they're going to Spain.
They're not going to America. Most of them, they use the African drug pass more than I've been studying.
Right. So I'm becoming an expert on war and trade, I guess, over the last 48 hours, over the last 24 hours, I guess.
So, yeah, Venezuela's drugs were not going straight to America.
They were going to Europe and Spain and those countries like that.
Hey, everybody this morning, everybody on crypto Twitter became a geopolitical guru.
Okay, let me tweet that.
Yeah, so, you know, it's definitely not because of the drugs.
You know, the budgets that the U.S. have in order to keep the drugs you know these these agencies going they they need the drugs coming in
because it keeps people employed it keeps bid budgets high
did he run
did ira no but i like his takes he knows he knows a couple of things that we don't he has the club
I think it's Colombian flag in his
Oh, he's Colombian
Yeah, I'm Colombian. I'm born and raised in New York, but I'm Colombian. Oh, and I definitely don't so and I voted for Trump
I'm patriotic. I voted for Trump and I love America, but obviously this country has been taken over by Israel elites and I have to speak my words.
He's in Jackson Heights.
You said the Israeli elites?
Not this again.
You don't think that's true?
He's talking the truth.
Oh, you guys are hooked on this.
Has anyone here been to Israel?
Dude, we don't need to.
I don't know. I just feel like
I'll bring in the Israel people.
They joined the spaces.
They're on boots on the
ground from Israel, and they'll
They'll tell you what? That they live free because of my tax money?
They'll tell you that?
Oh, no. See, you guys have watched American
News. You guys have watched American news.
You guys have watched the American news so much now.
And that's all this is at this point.
That's why I want to go to Israel.
I want to go to Israel.
No, props to Israel, dude.
Props to Jewish people.
I think he's confused.
He means he wants to go to Palestine.
They know how to make the moves, dude.
They know how to come in and take over, bro.
I mean, you saw them when they're coming to crypto, Twitter you know when they're coming to like crypto meme coins and that like holy
they extracted that mfr real good boys you know what i mean you gotta take your heart off to them
dude they they know how to operate wait wait who who who are the israels that were i mean pumped off funds like oh we're going back isn't it doing you know the crypto punk israeli
uh collection i think like oh yeah dude dude you can you can see the like pretty much time the
exact time when like you know the jewish said right when tripling down on kryptonit just went
like wild on full-on extraction for the last 18 months you know what i mean it's like two years
but i'll take my hat off to them and they They're not allowed to operate. Holy shit. They're getting to an industry, dude.
They take it over.
Did you see Trax?
Yeah, he's been fasting out all the time.
He's pretty funny.
I love that, man.
But is he going off on a Jewish person?
Bro, yeah.
He went into another Jewish jewelry.
Here we go.
It's bad in New York.
It's bad in New York.
They've got the New Yorkers brainwashed hard as fuck.
JP's from New York, right?
Yeah, dude. He's fighting
the dude in the store, man.
They have a Muslim
mayor now, right? Yes.
Is that right, JP?
That's good, right?
I'm over here.
I mean, what's good?
What does that mean?
I mean, it's just a Muslim mayor in a city that's controlled by Jews.
What are you talking about?
What is that going to do?
Hey, books will say the same things.
We get books in here, it'll say the exact same thing.
Yes, it is controlled by the banks, yes.
The Jews, they know how to move the banks.
It's smart.
You can't take that away from them.
Crypto Twitter is controlled by the Jews as well.
Crypto Twitter is 100% controlled by the Jews.
Crypto Twitter is not Jewish.
Alex is not Jewish.
He's the biggest fucking thing in crypto Twitter.
He is the biggest, but I mean, like, he hasn't run a project that becomes like Maine like
People that have like you know the main projects are all Drew's
If he runs a project and then and then what he runs a project then nobody likes him after he runs the fucking project even if it
Succeeds it's cuz Alex goes on
Carajo land and never you know
Let me cut out land. The fuck you mean
Yo, this guy man
Yeah, don't get me started on Dominicans. Wait JP. Have you been to Colombia? Of course Let me cut out black the fuck you mean go this guy man. Yeah
Wait JP have you been to Colombia?
Of course where I
Been to Cartagena Bogota many places
Did not go to Medellin, but I was right south of that. Ah
I don't want to change the topic of what this rube's about, but I just wanted to say that, you know, when anyone says that the elections in Venezuela was stolen, you know, and there are Americans saying that, you got to really consider the fact that Venezuela does have 10 times better, you know, security in their elections compared to the US.
They have biometrics.
If you know what that means, that's fingerprinting. They take IDs America to do that. So for Americans
to say that, you know, Maduro stole the election in Venezuela. Meanwhile, they have 10 times better
security for voting machines. That that's like, something's wrong there. So that's much, that's
my two cents there. My 10 cents, whatever you want to say but that's it
i'm not going to talk about that anymore did anyone fight back the the invasion nobody
hell no that's what i'm saying i'd like wouldn't there be some type of i don't think there
maybe i just don't listen to venezuela media the u.s military bro you wouldn't know there's a well
i mean i'm just thinking like venezuela's been impoverished for so fucking long and they have the most oil in the world.
Like it doesn't make any sense why this is happening.
And the other thing is like, I live in Colombia and they're all refugeeing to fucking Colombia.
I'm like, how bad is it in Venezuela right now is what I don't understand.
I don't know.
When they got China and Russia's helping with it and get their poor.
I mean, how do you figure that one?
So now let us help.
Colombia, you're going from a third world country
to a third world country.
Let us help now.
Let the United States go in there
and help them out for like 20 years.
Take all their oil.
They're going to take all their oil.
Bookmark the space and I'll see you in 20 years.
They're going to take all their oil.
That's what's about to happen.
That's good.
What's up?
I'm polymarked.
The oil that specifically in Venezuela is designed mainly for,
it's like very, very crude oil, very difficult to refine.
It basically used more for diesel,
which is for like what the military wants, the U.S. military wants.
And of course, because it's one of the largest in the world,
the U.S. could not allow Russia or China or Iran to take control of that.
That would mean that they would not have the upper hand in any kind of potential future war, which I believe is going to happen soon.
And this is why it's happening.
It's definitely not because of the drugs.
So, you know, it's definitely about regime change and about getting control of that oil, 100%.
And all that drug stuff is all about, know just trying to make it make a reason
why they were going in there taking them out that's all it's all it's all a theater for for
most people what's the reason to pass it through we have we have books oh wait did he get kicked
from the stage damn it one thing jp was saying too, that people aren't really talking about here is the Iran connection with Venezuela.
Iran is heavily involved in bypassing sanctions through Venezuelan oil.
So I think the big picture is really, obviously, geopolitical, but those countries bypassing sanctions.
But, you know, those countries bypassing sanctions and, you know, it comes down to, you know, obviously national security, you know, at that point when you have, you know, so many countries, China, for instance, in there working, you know, the day of.
I mean, that's not just irony.
That's definitely a message to Xi and everybody else, you know, globally.
You know, you're you're 100 right it does
send a message it basically says that you know if you have the capability and the power to take
a country and take its president go ahead and do it so for china they're going to go right after
taiwan now what you know based on trump's logic interesting yeah good point wait a second do we
actually believe the venezuelan people wanted that guy as a Venezuelan president?
Well, look, if you listen to the Western media, right, if you listen to Western media, no, of course not.
They don't want him. They're tired of him.
But the reality is, if you go to speak to people that are there, the poor people, the people that are middle class, they're going to tell you they want Maduro.
In fact, there's many websites and many links online and on X that are showing people protesting what's happening.
They're out on the streets and they're, they're upset about it. And there's a lot of militias on the ground, ready to defend themselves. So when they put this new person in, whoever it is, they're going to,
it's going to be a problem. You know, it's easy to take a president, but it's going to be a problem
now to have to deal with the people and the unrest and everybody uproaring about what happened.
So that's going to be a problem. And of course, now we're going to have to spend more money and
have us soldiers on the ground, boots on the ground in Venezuela. And it's going to be a problem and of course now we're going to have to spend more money and have u.s soldiers on the ground boots on the ground in venezuela and it's going to be
officially another war that's what's going to happen yeah so a war is definitely going to start
because it's just like split the parties even more like even in spain already there's already
riots about venezuela's people rocking and saying fuck america already in spain so
wait in spain yeah like uh it's very political here it's like it's very mixed a lot of hispanic cultures uh are immigrated into spain and there's a lot of venezuela i mean they love venezuela so
much why they immigrated all the way to Europe.
I'm in South Florida, and here are people that are boots on the ground here.
They're not happy with communism. For over 20 years, I've heard multiple complaints saying that that's just a disgraceful way of living.
And if anybody's been into communist countries and just seen how it is, it's awful.
It's terrible.
Nobody should experience anything
like that. I think we have three communist
countries in the world. North Korea,
Venezuela, and Cuba.
And that's it. And look at those
states. Their economies aren't
flourishing. We need
someone from Venezuela on the
speaker panel. Yeah, where's Robey at?
Yeah, Robey or Gigi.
Who else is from Venezuela that we know?
They're going to come over here, bro.
Gigi's not going to pull up again.
What do you mean?
She pulled up the other day just for like,
because her stream was about to start.
Trying to think who else is from Venezuela.
Man, all the Venezuelans I talked to in Colombia,
I talked to a lot of them.
They say it's really bad in Venezuela.
That's why they're in Colombia.
I think there's something seriously wrong with Venezuela.
I don't know if it's the president.
Well, like I mentioned, it has to do with years and years of being on sanctions.
And when your country is booming before sanctions and you're you're you have international markets going and and trading internationally and then suddenly the us comes and slaps a bunch of sanctions on you and
now tells all these countries and on in the un to not do business with with venezuela i mean what
do you think that's going to do to your economy that's going to it's going to cripple it you can
only going to have so many avenues of being able to bring in revenue and you know unfortunately
you know the drug situation might be part of that i'm not going to deny that but but again you know, unfortunately, you know, the drug situation might be part of that. I'm not going to deny that. But but again, you know, I don't think that we can blame Venezuela or Maduro 100 percent.
I think a lot of it has to do with the sanctions that were placed on the U.S.
And I think that was a plan.
They knew that that was going to cripple the Venezuela and it was going to be in the future a reason to take them out.
We got books on the panel books. Are you is it working you hear me yeah yeah jp said jp
said that it doesn't matter that there's a muslim mayor and i don't i don't know what he said but is
let me ask something is new york Jewish city no, no, no, but
Like we can't say that but the motherfuckers run it. Yeah, they run the show there, but they have a Muslim mayor
Still don't matter
Told you I
Well, I said you two would get like get on like
They know each other
Hello, there's either the Muslim mayor or the Italian that was no good
So we already had the Italian before so now let's try to Muslim something wrong with that. I like
Talking about before Giuliani. Yeah before Giuliani. I remember I used to be able to go down to Chinatown
I'm not even talking about Juliani. I'm talking about Cuomo.
That fucking dirty fucker.
Oh, FN fucking.
Yeah, exactly. So we're going to try Mom Donnie. There's nothing wrong with it.
Everybody deserves a fucking shot at their fucking dreams. You know, we're here for it.
It's only a couple of years. We can go through it. There's nothing wrong with it.
What about, um, do you still believe, wait, what else did you say, JP?
You're saying something about, well, I just knew books would agree with you.
The New Yorkers are brainwashed the most.
Out of all the Americans, the New Yorkers really believe the propaganda.
I'm not sure what you're talking about, the propaganda.
What do you mean?
You said something about the Jewish elites or I don don't know it's not propaganda i don't know
you mean conspiracy theory yeah that a religion is the reason behind certain things a whole religion
but you don't understand what well it's a whole religion it's it's not i didn't say judaism i said
i said a group of people which was you know the elites the the zionists basically
because there's a bunch of there's a lot of people that jewish that are in israel that are good people
that actually are opposing their government that oppose netanyahu and i'm not talking about those
people those people actually have a big heart and and are and and agree that you know what's going
on in gaza what's going on in lebanon what's's going on in Syria and Iran, and all around the world is
something they're condemning their government for doing
and the U.S. I'm not talking about those people.
I'm talking about there's a smaller group of that
Zionists that control, are in
the U.S. government, that are
controlling the U.S. as its
muscle to do and start wars around
the world. And that's what I'm talking about.
And the majority of those live in New York.
You know books, JP?
No, I don't.
Books, you know JP?
Nope, just not
him. I think I've seen his
Twitter before.
You guys would get along. Oh, man.
think alike.
Great minds think alike. i thought it was i thought it was an assault account the zionism stuff oh no books what do you think of this uh
venezuela they just captured the venezuelan president
uh man i think it's bullying bro like i think we should worry about america not about venezuela
like did this guy fucking say some shit that was bad about trump in the past and now trump is
witch hunting the witch hunt i don't know leave him the fuck alone is what i think
if you want the truth of what i think is that and they're gonna put a Jew in there just like they did in Mexico.
Look at JP throwing up the 100s.
This guy was out here saying
free Palestine and
saying the Jews are killing innocent people
and they don't like that, bro.
That's what the
Venezuelan president was saying?
That's what it's all about, yeah.
Oh, it's about this again, huh?
We're going back to that.
All right.
Just making sure.
I like JP.
He was saying that we can't allow another country to capture all that crude oil.
It would be detrimental to the United States if China or Russia captured the crude oil,
so we captured it first.
I like that. That narrative makes sense.
So now what are we in control of Venezuela?
Do we own Venezuela?
Is that the 51st state?
I think I'm going to put...
If I say Venezuela
is the 52nd state?
You're going to have Maria Carina in there by February, probably, dude.
She's going to be like the US government.
Venezuela is now the 52nd state?
Pretty much.
I mean, we took their president.
Now the 52nd state.
It's almost bigger than the whole United States.
It's huge.
This looks terrible.
What do you mean?
Who's the 51st state?
Globally, this looks terrible.
You got to edit it.
It's the first.
Who said it was the 52nd?
No, Canada is the 51st.
You listen to him for saying he's going to fucking tell you we're in the 55th state, bro.
That's all right.
It makes it even more engagement. Like engagement like now what's the 51st i think people are overlooking the fact
the biggest point of this is is that the chinese government delegated officials were in a meeting
with this guy in 90 minutes before he was extracted right that is a massive like wait what happened
well the the chinese delegation was in Venezuela
talking to this president, like, 90 minutes before he was extracted, dude.
Like, they were actually in the sort of, like, you know,
in the building, basically.
You know what I mean?
There's photos of him meeting this Chinese delegation
from the Chinese government.
You know, like...
And he was extracted 90 minutes after this meeting you know
two an hour like two hours after this meeting took place that's a massive like push against china
then from the u.s it might venezuela owes china still over 10 billion dollars so that's you know
yeah that's because of the sanctions 100 that was because of the sanctions before the sanctions
they had plenty of revenue coming in from the oil and they were able they were planning on being able to pay back China to fix the infrastructure in Venezuela but unfortunately the US came in slapped a bunch of sanctions on them and now guess what they don't have the money to be able to pay back the debt they had with China and of course it's going to cripple them and the US you know, this is a perfect time to slap more sanctions on them. That's what they did.
We have Jason AI joining us.
Sorry, can I ask?
You can't ask.
I'm sorry, Ja.
What were you going to say, Ja? I didn't mean to cut you off.
Can you hear me, Alex?
I wanted to ask him if he actually thinks that the only reason the economy in Venezuela is bad is because of the tariffs, that the economy was good before that.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I mentioned, I mean, it's because of the sanctions mainly.
I'm not saying it's 100%.
But it was terrible.
Actually, if you look at the books, if you look in the past,
when Chavez was in charge, the GDP for Venezuela was extremely high.
In fact, it was better than the US at that time.
For a small third world country to have that GDP was incredible. Um, so of course that's when they started slapping
sanctions on them, they were doing well and they were asking for loans from the,
from Chinese, from the China and China fixed their infrastructure.
And they started to do that, but unfortunately they, they weren't able to pay
them back because of the sanctions, uh, their economy started declining.
And unfortunately they
are where they are well when did they do this in 2013 chavez 2007 um china loaned venezuela uh
60 billion dollars and they did pay back over 50 billion dollars of it via oil reserve. So they still owe China $10 billion,
but this has been a longstanding loan payback.
So it's not recent.
We got Jason on the panel.
Can you hear me, Alex?
I can hear you, Jason.
Oh, very good.
Yeah, I didn't want to interrupt the guys, but yeah, I just wanted to make this one statement, and JP's all over it, and emphasize that Venezuela is probably the richest country in the world in terms of natural resources.
I don't think people understand that.
And they went back to Chavez.
The reason GDP was so high is they have the world's largest proven oil reserves. They have huge significant deposits of natural
gas, huge amounts of iron ore, bauxite, gold, diamonds, coal, huge hydroelectric potential.
Like the country is massively wealthy. It's an exceptional, like they have an exceptional
low cost to bring oil up. Like it's just incredible, Alex. And so hanging also some of the notes payable that they have to other countries and taking control, as the president has right now, it's a pretty significant chess move.
And I appreciate what the people said. Like, I don't think you can let that resource go to someone else. Like, I think it has to be controlled.
Furthermore, a lot of people, when I'm on Twitter spaces, they like to talk shit about America and
say things. And I oftentimes ask, where are you from? Oh, I'm from Portugal or I'm from Mexico.
And I'll say, we would take your country in 30 seconds. So like, stop talking so wild.
And this is an example, you know, and I want to
emphasize this. I don't love war. I'm anti-war. But when you're going to do war, you take the
country, you take the resources, you get paid back for what you've done, because this is not without
consequences. The United States is going to have boots on the ground. There's going to be another war. There's going to be, you know,
right now, it's probably a military group that's holding power with, you know, alongside the
United States. There's going to have to, that's going to have to be worked out by the people,
you know, if they have a fair election, whatever. But, you know, all you have to do is look at when
we took Saddam Hussein out, you know, it was a mess, just an absolute mess. People were
cheering. They were taking the Saddam Hussein statue down. You know, it was a big, big deal.
But afterwards, it was, you know, a real nightmare. So since we had ISIS and all the rest of it.
But I think this is going to lead to unnecessary, like, war internally in the U.S., right?
There's a lot of Venezuelans in the U.S. that are like citizens, maybe legal, whatever.
They'll protest.
They'll protest, right?
I said they'll protest in the United States.
Yeah, exactly.
But I mean, there's going to be an event that will happen in the U.S. that we will consider a terrorist attack or something or something in these manners in the next few years to get back that will be pointed at this moment
in time that happened about it the SIOP was insane bro like they put in
Venezuela's in here they made everybody be like all Venezuelans are evil they're
bad all right now you have that whole thing in your mind right and the trend
that I wow that shit so now okay now
the americans are like okay you know don't worry about them you know we're gonna let us do this
right now no one no one say anything that's that's uh it's crazy to think about that too you know
this is our wars why do you know because i don't know somebody just said
the americans could take your country and die, if you mean Spain or Portugal.
Well, we did.
No, we already did.
No, we already did. not war peace
this looks horrible i think think, for the United States
that we just took a president.
But you know what's weird?
The United Nations...
Shouldn't they be saying something?
I don't know if they're saying something.
Alex, let me ask you something.
Alex, hold on.
Do you think...
I mean, I know people are against this.
A lot of people are against it.
But it's like...
Do you want your president taken? That's the thing. You say something, against this, a lot of people are against it. But it's like...
Do you want your president taken?
That's the thing. You say something,
you want your president taken? You just saw what happened to Venezuela. You want your president
taken? Hey, what was it?
What did Theodore Roosevelt say?
What was it saying? Nobody wants
my president.
Well, a lot
of people think it was the Cubans that
assassinated JFK, you know, because
of a failed attempt on
the Cuban president's life. Like, all this shit's
been playing out, Alex, for a long time.
Speak softly and carry a big
stick and you'll go far.
And Alex, the time for this talk with NATO is going to be the next 90 days.
We give the power, the United States president, 90 days of the ability to go to war with anyone at any time.
He can just go to war.
And over this next 90 days, that's when NATO and Congress and everyone tries, enact articles and stop if they disagree.
No, but this initial attack or captured was 100 percent discussed with the other world leaders.
Because like this looks like like the United States taking a president out of a world leader,
like a country like Venezuela, would not be accepted by other countries. Right.
Because then other countries will see it as, as oh United States could do the same to me
Right. So like that's like no someone said Jason said oh I could take Barcelona Barcelona or
Portugal one day, right? So that's like the kind of metaphor that the United States is kind of
The contact Afghanistan the cool old Afghanistan that retreats off
21 days Roman we took Afghanistan on horseback.
Yeah, it ultimately cultivated in the retreat.
It doesn't matter.
So you didn't take anything, did you?
You couldn't even hold the country.
It doesn't matter.
Against the Taliban.
And that's the problem.
That's what's going to happen.
Russia thought that was going to take Ukraine.
Russia thought that was going to take Ukraine in a day.
And what have they got?
They've got like 50 miles across the border in like 18 months
and it cost them 1.5 million lives.
But Roman, I didn't say Russia could do it.
I said the United States could do it.
Well, they couldn't even do it in Afghanistan.
We raised the American flag.
They couldn't even do it in Iraq.
They occupied it for a short amount of time.
They couldn't hold it. Well, that's all know what i mean and that's why afghanistan
i didn't say we could hold it it depends how you like you define taking it take it means i
take your woman that means they capture the flag you know you take the flag for you could well
somebody can run in and steal your flag you know what i mean you don't know you know what i mean
you know that's the thing is like you know what I mean? You don't own the country, you know what I mean? That's the thing.
It's all like that.
They couldn't hold the ground that took,
and they couldn't even do it in Afghanistan,
so you're not going to do it against a first-war country.
You know what I mean?
It's just like stupid talk.
You know what I mean?
You know, the Americans retreated from Afghanistan on Bagram Airfield.
It was absolute shambles, shambolic.
You know what I mean?
You can't, can't and they've
often they've learned from vietnam and all these ground wars over the years right that this is not
the way to do it and this is probably this new sort of taxes that we're trying to start and see
now you need to insert your own government they're trying to do it in like the middle east but like
maybe you know they've planned this one a little bit better you know what i mean but this is all
about oil this is this you know why did they go into libya first you know i they've planned this one a little bit better, you know what I mean? But this is all about oil. This is, you know, why did they go into Libya first?
You know what I mean?
That's at the Middle East, right?
Why are they going to, like, get rid of Gaddafi first?
You know what I mean?
You can't have other countries.
You know, Syria was ripping itself apart in a civil war, right?
They left Syria.
There's no oil in Syria, but they went and got Gaddafi out in Libya.
You know what I mean?
This has been replayed over and over again.
You know what I mean?
But there's a difference between taking a country and occupying it for a short amount of time.
You've got to be able to...
But Roman, you're making an argument nobody has said.
I didn't say...
I understand Machiavelli.
I never said occupying a country is easy.
I never said that.
I said we could take your country.
You're not taking it, though, are you?
No, no, it's taking it.
You're just actually existing in the same spaces.
Basically, I'm exhibiting strength.
I'm saying that what Russia couldn't do, we did in 21 days.
That's all I was saying.
And I think the word taken, it needs to be like squeeze out the minerals and natural resources out of a country instead of taking it.
So like squeeze the life out of them.
It's not only just about oil either.
Like Jason had mentioned, there's so much gas and other resources.
But one of the biggest that hasn't really been addressed is rare earths.
And they're rich in rare earths as well.
And that's what China's after, ultimately, I think.
Bro, I said that.
I said all of the, it's one of the richest countries in the world.
It's incredible.
And if you think about it, Jason, right, these people that are against what happened, they didn't go to Cuba to live over there, bro.
I mean, if they like that whole type of vibe,
why didn't they just move to Cuba?
You know? That's a question
that I would ask somebody.
People are happy there that this happened, so
what do you have to say about that?
I'm happy for them.
Yeah, and there's also people
that are not happy about it.
It's like New York City, right?
For example, we voted and people
voted for Mamdani. That's a vote.
In the United States, people voted for Trump.
That's what they wanted.
This is what everybody
mandated the president to do, so
he's doing it.
Trump will be addressing, mentioned from Mar-a-Lago
in a half an hour
also, so look out for
that, Levin.
This was a bully move
to kind of show everyone around the world,
either you do business with the US
or this is going to happen to you.
It's also proximity to the US.
We can't have one of the other countries
who are against us,
having those resources
and setting up military installations
where ICBMs can hit us easily from here
in the Western Hemisphere.
I think that's the number.
Yeah, but we've gotten to a point in the modern
world now that it doesn't matter where you are
around the world.
If the technology exists, we can get hit
by anybody, basically.
Not necessarily.
But it is America. Really?
South America and North America.
It's the same continent, so it's a little
close to home.
Makes a difference.
Yeah, I think, I think even what I would call like very,
I don't even want to call them first world countries. They're,
they're attempting to land on the moon. All of that is a psyop to launch ICBM.
So when you see India, you know, we, we, you know,
well we landed on the moon.
It's all I'm seeing is rocket technology being pushed to its limits by, you know, a country that
doesn't even have, you know, good sewage. They've opened sewer systems, but they're landing on the
moon. Where's your priorities? Shitbags. Yeah. They got video games playing like,
oh, we landed on the moon, look at us.
You know, like it looked like,
it looked like I was playing Atari back in the eighties
or something and they actually put that on TV.
Like India, India has, India has landed on the moon.
You know, but people are, they take dumps in the ocean.
Literally who cares?
You know, basically what I'm saying is, you know, as an American,

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