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WEB3 EXPOSEDπΆοΈποΈ
Recorded: April 14, 2025 Duration: 2:24:12Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored various trends, growth indicators, and strategic moves within the market, emphasizing the importance of due diligence and the potential for recovery amidst economic challenges.
Full Transcription
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I come from the ghetto, so my truck is in my hood.
She wouldn't wear no panties around me even if she could.
Gave out plenty of strength, so they got it understood.
Fuck the nosebleeds, baby, cunts it on this wood.
If you know it's tension, don't come around me like it's good.
I got street smarts and you can't get this out no book.
I can't write my wrongs, but I can still write these hooks.
I was trying to get exposed, gang.
Better from wrong, nigga, come get off your show.
Savage say you pussy and he hit it on the nose.
But that water's open, why you actin' like it's clothes.
I don't know.
Y'all be goin' in and out receptions.
The same way that I be goin' in and out of Texas.
Or in and out my sessions.
Or in and out of restaurants.
Or in and out these courtrooms.
My lawyer like rejection.
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Water on my navy diamonds, came with coral reefers.
She from overseas, I had to buy her a new visa.
Met your wife in Vegas, but I hit her in Ibiza.
She the supermoder, so she only in his Caesar.
Used to date a rapper, but he acted like a diva.
Need his husband backwards, out here ballin' with the Rhea.
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bullshit, we don't know how to bullshit, on that bullshit, on that bullshit, on that
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should break it and do a five and it figures hey hey hey hey happy Monday
wake the fuck up happy Monday happy Monday it's not the weekend anymore let's get it check your fucking
pulse this is the best time ever to be in crypto what was the best time before
this yesterday let's fucking go wake the fuck up let's go let's go. I got street smarts and you can't get to stop no book. I can't right my wrongs, but I can still write these hooks.
All time to get exposed, gang.
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Say you pussy and he hit it on the nose, but that border's open while you act it like it's crows.
I don't know. Y'all be going in and out recession.
The same way that I be going in and out of
Texas or in and out my sessions or in and out her best friends or in and out these courtrooms
my lawyer like rejection.
Yeah, woah, woah.
I'm my bitchy Spanish, bodega.
Water on my navy diamonds can with core refa.
She from overseas, I had to buy her a new visa.
Met your wife in Vegas but I I hit her in a visa.
She the supermodel, so she committing to Caesar.
It's the day to wrap her...
6.34 p.m. Eastern.
Welcome to the show.
Today's a great day to be great.
Today's a great day to be great.
If you haven't already, like, comment, repost, tag a friend.
You should probably tag your BD, your BM.
You arguing all the time.
Let them know that you're trying.
Let them know you're trying and you're over here getting it.
You're over here on Twitter getting it.
You're in here for no fucking reason.
You're not dicking around like most
people are. You're here for some serious
shit. You want to know
all the good stuff you should
be farming first.
Right, Poco?
That's the D-GOT-GTO
right there if you haven't already. Shout out to that guy. Shout out to Uncle Gucci, July Icy Dillo. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee once again this motherfucker got another excuse as to why he is late excuse That's sweet. so there
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I have everything I want
because my imagination is mine
but the mind is not enough
because I am not my mind
I can see it
but I never get to see I'm truly blind
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but all I want is in this digit ride
the moon is only bright
when it's just the sun and shine yeah This is...
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And I'm so sung, yeah.
I'm a pop star, but this shit ain't bubblegum, yeah.
You would probably think my manager is for the brunt, yeah.
But my manager was tiny and hosting Budakon, yeah.
Ay, look, Ariana, Selena, my visa. What's the number one common thing in Web3?
Common excuse.
Since 2021, I'll go first.
It's the, we've been building this for 15 months,
for 10 months, for 8 months.
The sweet spot's like 7.
We've been building this for 7 months.
We're ready to put this fucking ugly ass art on chain are you ready to are you ready to mint it are you ready to mint it the fucking helicopter, yeah. Cops pulling up like I'm giving drugs out, nah, nah.
I'm a pop star, not a doctor.
Bitches calling my phone like I'm locked up, nah.
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Yeah, gotta fight please for the ice. These bloodbuckers are rugging you in my white tee, yeah, I'm gonna fight this for the ice.
These motherfuckers are rugging you in their white tee, in their flip-flops, in the comfort
of their own home.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
We're about to start at 6.40 p.m.
Thank you for puddling up.
Welcome to Web3 Exposed exposed i got some bookmark
things definitely got a i got a bookmark like seven things today normally bookmark like seven
things a week today alone seven motherfucking things holy fuck you guys are getting rugged left and fucking right, dude. Left and right.
Let's see the first one.
Mantra.
Oh, I can't wait till fucking Will pulls up.
He's going to have a ball with this shit.
He called it.
He called it.
A lot of bullshit going on over there.
I think my favorite part about that whole situation is when the founder decided to shoot a video and uh
his patek was just right there on his wrist gleaming away gleaming away man i'm telling you
these motherfuckers say fuck you what i say fuck you you just gotta fucking focus and pay attention
you gotta focus and pay attention um i thought this was an interesting tweet by the co-founder
of postmates
i also post it i'm not gonna read the whole thing but he's basically indicating how food
delivery is a joke complete scam prices are absurd um i feel that i feel that um
so yeah we're gonna jump into it just a second welcome to the show
will's late what else is fucking new but let's get it we're going to jump into it just a second. Welcome to the show. Will's late.
What else is fucking new?
But let's get it.
We're outside, baby.
We activated.
We are activated right now.
Um, damn, man.
So many of you getting rugged left and right.
Talking about, shit, just fucking put your money in some better shit.
You don't have to put it everywhere you see on the timeline.
Everything is not a good play. 97% of all coins won't be around very soon. Very fucking soon. You're
gonna see. All the bullshit promised roadmaps literally were just that. Bullshit. Bullshit.
We got 90 days left till summer. You guys are gonna be sick as fuck.
Watch.
I hate to say it.
You can still change right now.
You can just stop your focus.
There's some real good shit.
You ever had a cold in the summer?
It should be the worst, it gets better though.
How they turn the top dog to a hundred dog, it's a cold world even in that summertime,
like a hundred missed calls and my number lost, I talk to God before I talk to people
from them blogs, got a see-through when it's thick as London Park, from the city baby I
done grew up on the small
Not to bring up all this shit I'm not a plunger dawg
No Dalvation but I come through with a hundred dawg
And they don't bop they bite, let it spark they bite
Gotta walk straight right, turn it off to they life
Let em talk they right, in your heart stay light
When your parts stay tight, walk the spark for they light
Don't you let em trick you out, just spot em for that guy on
Wrap them cut em off and let em fight on me and find off When you ballin you that nigga that nigga got they eye on I'm going to get a case of gyms Like love, like love You the great hope and escape dope
You gon' have to make folks hand take notes
And some can't take smoke so they made dope
But those who learn to make folks stay afloat
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
It's gon' be a cause, come on
Devil's gonna take his thoughts from me
Callin' money, got my whole time on
It gon' be a call, come on, devil's gotta take your thoughts from me, callin' money, got my whole time on
It gon' be a call, come on, now I'm chillin' for the whole of the fun
No feelings for the whole summer
It's gonna be a cold summer
I'm chillin' for the whole summer
No feelings for the whole summer
The media from the whole thing, they just stayin' for this shit
Y'all wanna see us beef and stop me and finish shit
Niggas giving me the hell, so they wouldn't prevail.
Next thing you know, that girl is in a championship.
So every day I'm going in, I'm on some vampire shit.
And every night I'm in my bag like I'm camping and shit.
The trenches that we grew up in need to know you could win.
So you see me in my hood on my championship.
We see a minor setback, real major get back.
If I lose, it ain't over.
I be yelling, bet back.
I come from where they take it. You might never get back. Got a shout out New Jersey. Y'all won't get the next back. Welcome guys, thank you for pulling up.
welcome guys thank you for pulling up let's get it i watched a very interesting video today about
Let's get it.
meme coin traders um i don't know will debates me and thinks that it's all bullshit
i kind of do too um he he thinks there's nobody in the meme coin trenches that actually know how
to trade stop cut it up he doesn't think anybody knows how to trade nobody in the meme coin trenches that actually know how to trade. Stop. Cut it up.
He doesn't think anybody knows how to trade, like, in the meme world.
He thinks it's all orchestrated FNF groups.
None of them have true track records.
And I was like, Will, but what about this guy?
What about... No, no, trust me.
I'm like, fuck.
All right, brother.
All right, brother. All right, brother.
No worries.
He's about to be here in a sec.
There has, man, I think there's just been a plethora of, I mean, I've been saying this all month, but there's new daps.
And then there's also another, Luna.
I swear to God, this, don't get a schnauzer they run your life like she got
everything she wanted already food treats everything let me do my show um anyway so like
there's just been like a plethora i think of new daps which is fucking sick but on the other side
of that like these dot funds and shit uh shout out to Melina. She brought the news to my attention
today. I guess one of these dot funds got compromised or something. Like what is it?
Like what do we choose in this space? Like what do we decide gets the attention, right?
What do we decide? I feel like you could only have so many dot fucking funds bro um so that's one thing why is it that we choose i kind of know the answer but i don't think it's
black and white but why do we choose shitty shit to let like get virality and attention
we got really good defy apps we got really good working crypto apps out there uh it's almost like
oh if you don't see enough kols talk about it you won't
you won't care for it like go do your own fucking research like you know like you can find some cool
ass gems um i don't know i that's well you know i have some stuff i'll pin and then also uh the
other thing i wanted to bring up was nfts and the excitement of nftTs and hype. Is it obvious?
Is it not obvious?
The top 15, maybe fucking 10 projects in the eco are cooking.
And I feel like this is the most easiest time to be a part of those ecosystems.
I'm not saying go buy anything.
I'm saying pay attention, right?
I see Izuki cooking up with their anime stuff.
I see the penguins cooking up. Abstract's doing well. I see the apes killing it. More things
coming. More announcements coming. More things, you know, added to the people that are already
in the ecosystem. What else? There's new mints i see doing really well i'm not gonna be
the person to just gas fucking gaslight and get excited about new mints that did well just because
a mint did well and it minted out doesn't necessarily mean the motherfucking project
as well so let's just give it some time for some of this stuff but uh it's really nice to see the
pivot on the timeline to um you know things matter, things that actually I think that should deserve
more attention. I'm glad that there's no more Bitcoin grifting going on. That's what I'm happy
for. That was a joke because I think there is more Bitcoin grifting going on. But the trick is
if you mint it for the Trello, you will actually mint out. So if anybody here needs to extract, wants to extract, get some art on Bitcoin, spend some money, put it on the chain.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to fucking.
Anyway, put some bullshit-ass art on the chain, and then you will have the opportunity to make a bag, maybe make a whole Bitcoin.
And then what you can do also is resell it. So you build
the hide up, hype up, you buy a whole bunch on your own wallet, private wallet, then you can
resell it. This is a very easy 3X opportunity if you didn't know. Yo, I'm giving away Solana,
as well as I'm going to be giving away, what else? Let's have some well as I'm going to be giving away.
What else?
Let's have some fun.
I'm going to be giving away some ApeCoin and Solana today.
So just drop an EVM wallet and drop a Solana wallet.
Let's get it.
EVM.
So it doesn't really matter, to be honest, but that's what I'll be giving away.
And all you have to do is like, comment, repost the room.
Thank you for being here.
We got sick-ass updates this week from BZ. bz is going to be doing a ripping ship starting thursday
so definitely uh pull up to that shout out to the boy dash he will be hosting that uh it's very
very cool i'll go over the details here in a few uh but i think you guys should definitely take
advantage of it especially if you're a collector.
I just pinned something to the top. BZ is going to start giving away XP for instant rewards. I'm not talking about building up for some TGE or coin. And there's nothing wrong with that, by the
way. But that ain't that. That ain't that. So if you haven't already, get into BZ.
Start playing.
Start engaging.
I put my link below.
If you want to get ahead, go ahead and get an account and get on there.
Start engaging and start playing around.
There's nothing better than fucking just getting rewarded for stuff that you're already
going to do as well as getting the opportunity to make money off those things, right? Those
rewards aren't cheap. You know, I think we're giving away a fucking hefty amount over fucking
thousand bucks a week in things, um, in rewards. So definitely, definitely engage if you haven't
already. While we wait on Will, we'll go ahead and start the show and get things rocking.
I saw a lot of talk about the mantra meltdown.
I saw some FUD on RWAs overall.
Like, are you fucking dumb?
RWAs will always be fine, no matter fucking what.
RWAs are going to be literally fine.
Now, the shitty fucking projects that come from these sectors because
they think they could bank on a sector or a term or a buzzword, right? Like right now,
my favorite one is, you know, engaged to earn, like shut the fuck up anyway. Um, so yeah, like
let's, let's be realistic here. Uh, let's be realistic here and, and realize that RWA is real
world assets is a real fucking sector, but there is gonna be shitty companies to come of it.
And, uh, I know, I know for a fact, Will couldn't wait to come to the show today so he can talk about all the meme traders that we look up to now.
We were just talking about it, Will.
Some of the best meme traders in the world.
Like this guy.
Let me see.
Hold on a second.
Um, okay.
So I want to talk about you saying like people giving up a lot of your friends gave up.
Uh, and with this current market sentiment, a lot of traders are not grinding.
So why are you still grinding?
Why are you still going?
Especially like with all the success you already had, like, what do you benefit from this?
I mean,
when you really look at it
from a realistic
point of view,
it's like,
even if you make, well I'm sure
this is a lot to some people
in here, you know, maybe most people
don't make this much, but you know,
say even if you trade all day,
you know, 12 hours, whatever.
12 hours!
10 sold.
10 sold!
If you're making $1,000 a day, that is like crazy ass money.
12 hours a day, $1,000 motherfucking dollars.
You don't have to have a family, anything.
Just devote your fucking life to the trenches for 12 hours a day for 10 fucking souls i mean any money that i think
is you know crazy i'll still do it because i mean i enjoy it so because you enjoy it we enjoy
jeopardizing our mental health physical health hygiene all of the above that's probably why
it's also was so easy for me to grind all day every day is because I enjoyed it when some other
people didn't so so what do you what does it look like necessarily like you're all right I'll chill
out I'll chill out Will I don't know about you but I'm gonna spend my next 12 hours of fucking day
in the trenches for my 10 motherfucking soul bucko bucko all right thank god will's here hello will welcome to the show hope
you had a great weekend before we jump into that because i know you have a lot to say
we'll get into it would love your take on the markets and i would love for you to jump into
the mantra meltdown welcome will go ahead i wanted to talk on that little little snippet i know you do but
save it i wanted to talk about that because you know these these traders with no charts
traders expert traders with no charts on their timeline gotta love it um that's how trading
works trading works by a a soul in a dream.
And you just throw a soul at just random projects that you can find.
And, you know, eventually you'll make it.
That's how trading works.
Not really, but we can, we'll just say it is, right?
Make the people feel good about losing their money.
But yeah, I already got too deep.
We'll talk about it in a minute um
yeah as far as markets go yeah i i didn't say it's 85k you know pushing into that range we're
going to kind of see where things go from here it's it's getting pretty interesting i think um
i do think that this is kind of that make it or break it position. 85, 86, something like that will be kind of the ideal range to kind of watch for.
I think we got to 85, 8 roughly at the highs.
So it was pretty interesting.
And I do think that we kind of set those highs for right now at least.
And I think we'll likely kind of pivot right back down into the lows again and i've discussed this many times my time frame is likely q4 this year not really the
rest of the year rest year is going to remain kind of mute i mean it's nothing new it's really
nothing new i mean look at the last time we topped when was it roughly about march right
and that was the last year and we kind of rolled from there and came back down.
Took us about one, two, three, four, you know,
about seven, eight months to roll out of that
before we ended up breaking out of the high.
We're currently only one, two, three, four, you know,
about five months, four or five months in right now.
Both bottoms were signaled around August.
Doesn't mean it's going to be August exactly to a T.
Could be July, right?
It could be September.
But you want to look around August as your reversal signal.
If the rest of the year doesn't really provide a lot of liquidity,
I would anticipate Q4 will, and that will be your bear market, right?
I don't consider this a true bear market because there's really no real upside
and no real downside in reality outside of memes, right?
And stuff like that, 90% down on a lot of those.
But as far as the market goes, Bitcoin goes, you know, you had your breakout to 110, you pulled back to, you know, the 70s.
I don't think that's a real bear market personally.
If we end up breaking the lows, then that's where you'd have to be kind of start getting interested
in the bear market conversation.
Lows being settled somewhere below 70K.
Then you got to be like, all right,
we're likely in a downtrend at that point.
Got to be careful.
That's where you'd be a little more cautious
about how you're playing this market.
But for now, I'm expecting more kind of, you know,
just pulling people through the market.
We saw a couple things run, a couple memes ran, a couple different things ran.
And they popped off a little bit.
You got a couple 100% moves, a couple 200% moves, 300% moves.
But the reality is, is like a lot of that ended up kind of reversing back.
And some of it still is reversing back.
I would say take profit if you got some good moves.
Be smart about this play.
And, you know, the anticipation was to potentially take shorts
on the play around 85, which we're still relatively up here.
We're like 84.5.
You could still kind of wick into 80, you know, 85.8, 85.6
if they want to keep playing up here.
But the reality is, like, we have to break above 85 to be bullish by significant margins.
You have to hit like 87, 88, 89, somewhere in there.
That would give you enough breathing room to be well above the 85K range.
Or you're going to stay below the 85K range and you're going to kind of pull back.
And again, I still see 70k as support i think
that's an important position to be looking at i know this isn't what everybody wants to hear and
they're like f this i'm gonna go look for what i want to hear that's fine um i'm just giving you
what i see like i always try to do um markets are kind of hesitant they're hesitant on trump
news they're hesitant on what they want to do. SPX is pretty wild, right?
Like that pull up there was pretty wild.
I think we will kind of hover here around 53, 5,400 on SPX.
And next month we'll dump into, you know, hopefully a 50% retrace into a breakout move.
That's what I'm hopeful for, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen.
So we'll have to kind of let this one play out i don't think you leave a big wick like that behind and don't retrace into it a little bit
on spy so you know i don't think that the lows are quite settled yet but i think well let me
let me rephrase that the lows might be settled right the lows being 4800 but you know it doesn't
mean you can't dip back down and go for like you know 5k 5200 something
like that if they really want to to kind of fill in some of this wick that they created on the on
the spy candle here on the monthly um so that's something else i'm looking at uh suey lana pull
back above the highs i think that's pretty interesting. Still holding there. Soilana? What the fuck is that?
Soilana.
It's been very soilana this month. Wait, wait, wait. Before Will continues,
we got that sweet spot right now. Shout out
to all 50 and you in here. I'm
giving away some soul in the next two minutes.
Like, comment, repost, tag a friend
and there's Soilana on the way to one of y'all's
wallets. I'm going to tag you below in about 60 seconds go ahead will i'm lying 120 seconds go ahead will
no it's all good uh so i i again i threw out the trade for people before we even hit the 85k mark
i threw it out way before then and i was like 85k is your top that's like where you're gonna
see resistance take Take the short.
You break out significantly above.
Cut the position.
Go long.
And so far, the 85K shorts are playing.
And I think that they'll continue to play, right?
Doesn't mean that I'm just trying to, I guess, shine a little bit in an area that is kind of dark for people, right?
Like a lot of people were just like, all I know how to do is buy a spot.
Like I don't know how to trade.
So I throw out a free trade that I thought would interest people to kind of show people like what the difference is between somebody who claims a trade and say, oh, I'm a trench diver and somebody who actually trades.
Cause I think those are two different things.
If you could trade the charts, you understand what's going on.
If you're trading trenches, you're kind of playing off of whatever you can find right um i always consider it like craps
in the corner when you're playing uh trenches if you know you know throwing the dice and i consider
like you know basically coming in and uh playing something like charts it's more like playing at
the table, right?
You're not over there in the corner trying to just sling dice
and guess what's happening next versus trying to actually, you know,
understand and play on what you see.
You either fold your cards or you hold your cards.
And I think that in the scenario we're at,
it's a tricky scenario for a lot of people.
They're very, very scared here.
But, you know, for me, I think it's just,
you just have to be calm, market neutral, play what you see, and take it from there, basically.
I think you're going to get opportunities on some of these coins that ran a little bit
to get into them again, if you want to, and probably take another 100, 200% swing at them.
And again, I think one thing that I saw that i thought was a good statement and it was actually
by k money uh was the uh part where he said that uh you know rising tide lifts all ships and that
is very true that what that means is like you know when the liquidity flows come back in every
coin's gonna run it just some will run much harder than others some will be very mute so on and so
forth that's memes that's fundamentals that's everything but the liquidity flow right now is Some will run much harder than others. Some will be very mute, so on and so forth.
That's memes, that's fundamentals, that's everything.
But the liquidity flow right now is kind of weak.
The volume is kind of weak.
We're seeing it regularly.
The Trump pump was nice, right?
It was a nice little 100% move, 200% move, 300% move,
depending on what you were in.
But I did trade, get in and get out,
and I think that other people should have done the same.
And just right now, it's a trading market. It's not really the best for investing at the moment,
but there are investing ranges, I think.
I think anything below 80K is a deal for long-term investors.
And as long as you see Bitcoin below 80K,
anything else you're interested in will likely be at low prices too.
So be interested in those
also as long as they're not structurally in a downtrend um so i'm good like i i'm perfectly
market neutral um iwm i think is pretty bottomed out like extremely bottomed out um for those who
don't know that's that's the risk part of the market that's uh that's the low caps when it
comes to stocks and that thing got absolutely demoed like this month.
We came all the way down to 171.
That was basically the bottom.
I mean, the bottom was like, what, 160?
160 was the bottom of this range.
And that's the bottom since basically 2021.
So the 2021 bottom, we basically revisited on low caps on on stocks so that's
that's a high signal to me that there's a lot of fear and there's probably a lot of discounts and
deals so i am looking for long-term plays as well as trades so i'm doing a little bit of both here
and i think that that's kind of the way you have to kind of play this at the moment. Just be smart about what you're doing. Obviously, mantras and OMs and not laughing at anybody's losses.
What do you think about that?
You got to understand the Ponzi's.
What do you think about that?
And give me your full thought.
I don't want to hear the salt on the wound.
I want to hear why you were right.
Look, I mean, Ponzi's will be Ponzi's, right?
And we got to understand that ponzi's only last for so
long um you ran really hard why do you think you ran really hard in a market that didn't condone
running really hard um you were getting baited you were getting baited 100 you were getting
baited and i think it was very obvious that the bait was coming and the switch was getting ready to happen and it's it's it's it's just like ftx i was feeling
the same thing with ftx i was like you guys are gonna get obliterated luna same thing i was telling
people with luna i was like it's like get the hell out of luna is like you're gonna get obliterated
and this is always seem to come along now does it lessen my interest in the rwa space no
not necessarily i do think there are real companies in that space but i think that you
know in the instance of what just happened with these two basically crypto projects imploding
it's it's just a whole nother category right and to me to me i think mantra was like the biggest the biggest rug i've seen right
it it's it's almost on par with something like uh squid games if anybody remembers that from 2021
like it's almost up i think i think it's i think it's pretty much like on par with that one what's
that lady what's that lady that didn't ever launch a chain but she got all kinds of money like 14
billion it's like up there you know it's like that was a long-term shtick like they were actually like
hitting the pavement doing full marketing and it take that much money out of a fucking token as
well and they're not taking any accountability for the for it happening they lied to everybody
yeah it's kind of crazy um are you up on are you up on water w-a-tT-R? Nah, nah, nah. Bro, this is actually major, Will.
It's an AVAX L1.
And the whole thing is it's like basically for shipping routes.
They're covering the water, right?
But the names that are involved in this are like they're Goliaths and every industry.
And they got, I mean, I think they they're gonna do pretty much what rwas are
intended to do like these people aren't fucking around this is who owns all the real world assets
talking jp morgan backs this and a bunch of other people it's not like the most crypto friendly
decentralized play but i'd be watching when it comes out it hasn't released yet i i've seen jp
morgan coins get get rugged too this isn't a this isn't a coin. This is a 21. This is like
they're basically claiming $21 trillion in
infra. They're pulling on chain.
This is their move. It's RWA
plays. You should do your research on it.
It's pretty big.
I'll
look into it, but you kind of lost
me on AVAX. I'm not going to lie, but I'll
look into it. It's AVAX
fork. The tech is irrelevant from kind of lost me on avax i'm not gonna lie but i'll look well it's now it's it's avax fork right
i mean i mean the tech the tech is is irrelevant from like like who's actually gonna put these
logistics on chain like there's a lot of money there it's a well-known fact and um and if the
whole world's gonna be trading on these rails wait but um jim sir so profits was good wills
girls um what's good guys but you're saying that it's a fucking
that whole abax thing as well that will was saying that um firstly abax is cooked secondly it's an
l2 on east so l1 on abac l1 what what what what just look like i'm not i'm not here to argue
about it i'm giving you information if you're a real one a back l1 like okay you sound like
yeah like i said like i'm doing nothing but i'm not shilling something i don't own tokens it's
not even available to buy you know i'm giving basic information we're talking about rwas this
is like probably i think the most legitimized play coming from web 2 into web 3 trying to use
these payment rails that like obviously tradfi is interested in right now so it's like do your do your research bro w-a-t-r that's all i can tell you
you're saying like 27 trillion there's not even no 21 trillion dollars in in materials moved
around the world these are real world assets there's not even three trillion dollars of market cap in the entire
crypto okay i'm not gonna argue i'm just gonna pull the facts i'm gonna pull the facts up one
second no but you're saying i'm not i'm not saying this i'm reading this off of a website
okay which xrp is meant to have done with fucking swift like two years ago which they still haven't
done but this random water thing on amax let's let's not talk about that's another one that's
another i appreciate the alpha
on other things. That's
always, you know, I always like new shit.
I step away for one second looking
for... You guys are
bugging. I was just letting it happen. Yeah, I know.
That's all you do.
The mantra thing, real quick.
How can this be avoided next
time, Will? Let's have
a productive conversation around this because I remember this being the next Jesus. How can this be avoided next time will uh let's have a productive conversation around this because
i remember this being the next jesus so how could this be avoided
man i i i can't make it any simpler for people be early or be late right you gotta understand
where you are in the coin in the cycle everything right like yeah i i definitely think there there was
money to be made if you got out there was money to be made there's always money to be made if you
get out but you got to understand what you're what you're messing with right and you got to
understand when you're in a ponzi then you got to understand that you got to get out of the ponzi
before everybody else gets out of the ponzi and who's the people that's going to benefit from the
ponzi the most is it going to be the whales that got in with you, blah, blah, blah,
that continue to hold?
Or is it going to be the people that created it?
It's the people that created it because they created the Ponzi for a reason
so they could take the money at some point.
Let me ask you a question, Will, before you continue,
because I don't think you heard when I said this.
The founder decided to make a video and his tech was showing.
As an investor down bid on their bags.
How would that make you feel?
I mean, look, all I know is I hope he didn't supply his address or real name or anything within that video.
I think people did.
They I don't know.
I'll just say this part.
I'll leave it at this.
I think people feel too comfortable
and too safe in this space
thinking that they could just rug people
for billions of dollars,
millions of dollars, blah, blah, blah,
and nothing's going to happen to them.
I can tell you,
undoubtedly, go watch some YouTube videos
of some people that rug some people
and rug the wrong people
and see what happened to them. Some of them ended up in suitcases and many other things and i'm not
saying that's gonna be me i don't rug whoever you want that's not my problem but the point being is
is like you're exposing yourself on top of doing this to people like that's just the dumbest move
ever and the thing with uh on uh this on thing like it wasn't really popular in the west but it was
huge in like the middle east and mina region they'd had some fucking like um deals with like
those are the ones they always get yeah no but they always get the middle east and imagine they
had like a billion dollar deal with one of the biggest property developers in like the uae
with which has like i don't know probably like 40 of the skyscrapers and stuff in this in like Dubai and around that kind of vicinity so like imagine like the confidence that
people had in this region in this token specifically it's nuts like it didn't really get to like US and
this kind of stuff like you see people on Twitter didn't really get rugged no one was really holding
it and shit but in like the Middle East it had a fucking big presence and people were holding this from like i don't know a few cents all the way up to like whatever six seven dollars
that's like two three hundred x on a fucking l1 and they were still holding it's nuts that that's
what i'm saying that's literally what i'm saying you gotta understand the ponzi when you're in it
you gotta understand it like bro i'm up 100x Maybe I should take some off here. People rode like 200, 300x
on this, didn't sell, and were holding
millions of fucking dollars, and
they were all on exchanges. I don't feel bad for those
people. I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for
those people. If they're complaining, and
you had 100x, I'm sorry. I don't feel
bad for you. 300x.
That's fucking insane.
All greedy can you fucking get.
Yeah, that's literally what it was. It fucking get yeah that's what it was
the same shit with Luna and many other projects
that collapsed there were tons of people
who were up millions of dollars from a couple hundred dollar
investments millions of dollars from
a couple thousand dollar investments and they're
sitting there not willing to take out a mill or two
you only put in a couple thousand
and you're not willing to take out a mill or two
you need to get your head checked
you gotta understand when you get your head checked you gotta
understand when you've made enough money you gotta take some money out i i know it's hard for people
to comprehend look if you come up and you get into a coin you put in three grand and you come out with
250k be happy take the 250k f the project f the community f all that shit like you need to you
need to understand when you're up like i can't make it any easier for people it's because like people think even if they sell on
a random exchange their wallets are being tracked and they're gonna be like oh my god they g it like
take some fucking profits along the way like that's how you say you gated for a quarter of
milli you're gated for a million who cares that's what i would tell them like bro i got out with a
million who cares and that's that's not even like that's not a like dumping on your community that's literally
getting into a coin early enough right becoming the i guess a community member to a degree because
you're trying to promote your coin and everything like that you got a product that seems solid
even if it's a solid seeming project just just be smart about what you do. Don't
be dumb with your investments. You gotta understand
enough is enough and you gotta get the
fuck out before you get wrecked.
Especially right now, the market is really
illiquid. I don't
expect these will be the last that we'll
see of things that are going to collapse
up here while we're sitting there hovering
and trying to figure out where liquidity is.
There will be more
going into Q4 this year.
Well, look at how much FUD Binance has
right now. Like, more than ever before.
I was just about to say, like, look at Binance
and a bunch.
Wait, can somebody fill me in? I think I know,
but I don't want to act like I know. Why are they getting so close?
It's on their exchange.
It's just like a whole bunch of different shit.
For once. Should I ask Grock? Because you guys ain't saying shit. What'd they do? their exchange it's just like a whole bunch of different shit like for once should i ask
because you guys ain't saying shit what they do like um last week for example there was like a
whole bunch of bmb plays that got listed and they were like random fucking ones and no one were
holding they even held a public vote and these ones didn't even win the vote they didn't even
have the most users or most volume just just a random bunch of fucking tokens.
Some nuked like 40%, 60% on the day of launch.
And then like fucking two weeks ago with like Wintermute
nuking their fucking portfolio, Cooked.
Like fucking Act 2 went down like 50% in like 15 minutes from like...
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah, they nuked Act 2.
They fucking nuked that chart.
And then they got nuked again recently as well with this whole om shit.
There was a few other tokens that nuked like 30%, 40%.
It's cooked.
Stevie must have had a really good time in jail.
Like he misses jail.
Apparently like 30 tokens have been listed this year on Binance,
and only, like, two of them are in, like, I don't know,
plus 4% or some shit.
Remember Peanut?
Like, Cooked as well.
That was another one.
Yeah.
But that one was cooked, like, months ago.
But it got cooked again recently.
With Binance being such a major player in this space,
does this mean that it's possible their reputation dies down and somebody
else kind of takes the W or is that?
Well,
like it could,
like there's other exchanges that are close to like volume and shit.
Like,
okay,
I spy bit.
Like if you look at their daily volume,
it's not far off and they all have like the same kind
of like operations and um shit in place as well they can handle the volume they've got the clientele
yeah i think it becomes less less of a signal profits i think yeah lots of lots of these
exchanges have similar volume but the problem is is like are they sustaining that that liquidity
binance is sustaining more liquidity
than every other platform granted through probably malicious means but you know they're definitely
sustaining more than every other one and you know somehow bnb still hasn't collapsed yet in the same
process that's i find very probably because it's a similar tokenomics to mantra with like 90%
bundled somewhere and like that kind of shit.
Because everything dumped, Bitcoin dumped, ETH dumped,
SOLD dumped, just kind of like didn't really dump that hard.
10, 20%, 30% maybe.
These ones are down like 50, 60.
Yeah, even in the bear bear, it didn't dump that hard,
which is crazy to me because it's like BNB should have been definitely one of those tokens that should it has to be bundled it has to be bundled all to hell
to be to be up that high this was the first bundle
crazy to think about it nobody thought about it first before cz somebody probably figured it out
and then they started bundling these fucking mean coins on fucking what's it called? On pump fun and shit.
William, did you see Golden's new list?
Golden's?
Are you familiar with his lists?
Let me ask you that first.
I have seen some. Okay.
The FNF list or the token
list? Yeah, the FNF list. Oh my god. Have I f list or the token list yeah the f and f list
have i made it on the bad list yet no we me and you haven't made any lists i'm nervous i'm nervous
anyway let me um no i ain't nervous that nigga knows what time it is all right so list of people
i think are part of a crypto f and f group that I'm carrying CTO coins and then pump and dumps them over and over again.
And then goes to list quite a fucking few people.
I know every one of these people.
Two of them I'm not fond of at all.
He wrote my boy Pingu out under the bus.
Yeah, threw everybody there.
And then somebody wrote, and i thought this was interesting and i really this is the point of this me bringing this up because i want to
bring up a thought process in this in this space i want to bring up a mindset that i feel like
is brought in and sometimes shouldn't be brought in uh somebody said easy is on this list this
automatically uh disqualifies the entire list. Easy is the fuck amazing.
You know, talking about that. By the way, I agree. Easy's dope. I met him in real life.
I hung out with him quite a bit. I do not track any wallets. I don't know if there's anything
that he's done wrong. I don't think so. I don't think somebody like that would get as far if
they did. However, I'm not going to act like I searched the whole chain however is what i'm gonna say
i think that comment was not valid because and i'm not saying anybody in the list is a scammer
or whatever uh i'm not gonna give my opinion on that however i think that we in this space as a
group too many times cancel shit out and then at that point do not hold accountability.
Stop. With anybody
in the space, and then we just brush it under
the rug, and then when something really
really disgusting happens, like a
Ben.Eath situation, then we decide
to give a fuck, and expose,
and let's pull up the receipts.
Why the fuck do we not
do this shit when it's brought up?
I appreciate people like golden
because it makes you motherfuckers think a little bit it's not just me saying you know let's
critically think and i'm not even the best critical fucking thinker i graduated two fucking point eight
gpa i appreciate people that can do the nitty-gritty and go deep and be like yo what does this mean
so the question is, is this stance?
Do we think this mindset of, oh, just because somebody on the list
shouldn't be on the list or somebody that's involved
that shouldn't be tagged or involved,
that completely cancels out everything else that was said?
Anybody want to answer that?
This sounds retarded as fuck.
What, so people can't be in group chats anymore?
What the fuck's going on?
No, I don't think his list is right or wrong i'm saying in general like if this let's say the homeless was was a group of scammers let's just say hypothetically but there was one person there
that's not a scammer and somebody goes well that entire list is canceled out because that one person
that's not a scammer that's my question but i agree i think that f and f groups there's nothing wrong with f and f groups like whatever you know it is what it is people are i've been
having fun playing stupid on this i've been playing like old man like what's f and f yeah
oh what's that like but not you know it's that whole thing like you know people don't like when
they're not in the group you know it was funny two months ago to be an insider now it's not funny
you know markets up every it's funny when be an insider now it's not funny you know markets up
every it's funny when everybody else is losing it's not fucking funny anymore because i'm fucking
down you know these motherfuckers and their feelings profits and like i swear like i get
to the point where i just kind of just like actually you think you think golden's in his
feelings or you think he has a point here oh i'm saying just people in crypto in general but gold
golden said i like the point of like the key statement i think is what he said yep and so i you know and i said this earlier in big man's face like i don't give a
fuck what list a motherfucker makes if i don't work for them or they don't work for me like
fuck your list who cares i like golden golden's a homie but like i'm not validating myself or not
off of his list and like if anybody needs validation or like gets thrown under a bus
it's like maybe check who you're around. I mean, Jesus got dragged through the
mud for being around the wrong motherfuckers. You know, he did what he did. Motherfucker Jesus,
bro. Shouts out to the boy. But you know what I'm saying? Like none of us are Jesus and you
got to stand on principles. And I respect Golden because like, whether I agree with him or not on
whatever, he's going to stand on his principles and he's going to allow me to stand on mine.
And that's why I fucked with the boy.
And my friends are on the fucking list.
So do I disagree with the fact that some of these people are scammers?
There's still thieves and fucking wolves out there acting like they're sheep.
So let's not forget that.
Look, it's the end of the day.
My thing is what happened back in the day, it it's not like how it used to be and it's
all hands are going everybody uh but the thing is post receipts you know what i mean then you
get fucking transparency you catch somebody slipping fucking post the shit instead of just
you know like you know thinking that's my thing on it you know or make a log but i'm american
i can say what i want he can say what he wants that's my whole
thing is like motherfuckers be running around here saying nigger all fucking day like it's okay
right and then i'm supposed to be mad at a list i'm supposed to be mad at a list like
come on like who cares you know i'm saying i'm not saying you i'm not saying you specifically
moose i'm just saying in general yeah i know fuckers expect me to care i got a kid i got a
computer program i'm building i got things i care about that aren't golden's list so like if my life is sucked up on the internet where i give
a fuck about an old man's list who rock a new balance that's my boy i rock new balance i'm old
but i'm not convoluted to the facts like people got to stand on their own principles and have
their own account of that i'm not here here's here's the thing i feel kind of the way you're
saying like i think there's a lot of justice seekers versus liquidity finders.
And you can try and find justice all you want in this space,
but I'll tell you it won't get you very far as far as liquidity goes.
So there's a lot of injustices that happen on Twitter.
There's a lot of injustices that happen in crypto.
There's a lot of injustices that happen, especially on PumFund.
There's a ton of injustices that happen on crit there's a lot of injustices that happen in especially on bump fun there's a ton of injustices that happen on pump fun but the point being is is to know to avoid
the injustices and look for places to make money right that's the i mean we came here for the art
we came here for the money and you need money to get more art right at the end of the day so you
can make as many lists as you want around people that are bad
or you can just basically exile them to the mute button and then kind of move on with your life
and look for the next play that's all i can really tell you i i i don't i don't like the the not that
i don't like i just i don't see the point in spinning the the small amount of time we have
accountability or policing in our space
correct no no 100 100 there should be and i i think the best way to do that is to ignore those
people it's literally just to pretend they don't they don't exist uh and and if somebody asks you
about them tell them the truth right but only if somebody asks you if somebody talks about them
tell them the truth right but only if somebody talks about them, tell them the truth. Right. But only if somebody talks about them. But don't give them validity outside of that. Right. Don't don't give them don't give them a place in your head, a place in your in your time that, you know, is outside of somebody asking you a question about that person.
that person. And, and I think those are the times that are appropriate to express how you feel about
that person or individual or whatever, right. Is when you're asked about them. And I think outside
of that, they shouldn't even be a part of your day. Your day should be like, how can I make this
next, you know, this next grind? Where can I find the liquidity in the space? What should I be doing
right now? How can I educate myself to be better space what should i be doing right now how can i
educate myself to be better at what i'm doing how can i be smarter at investing how can i you know
like maybe some of you aren't interested in in being smarter and investing just interested in
investing okay then study your companies do stuff like that i just it's not about policing i think
policing is okay if you're doing something about it.
Like, I think, like, ZachXBT does stuff about it, right?
He on-chain polices people and shows receipts.
That matters.
But, like, to just point out people and call out cabal groups
or call out FF groups, whatever, you know,
whatever you want to call them,
I think it's just pointless, in my opinion.
When I got the Golden Apollo, I was like, I think Golden might be ZachXBT. I think it's just pointless. When I got the golden follow,
I was like, I think golden might be Zach
XPT. I really thought that for a second.
I was like, nah, nah. But that was the
first thing that came to my mind. It's like, is golden Zach
XPT? Is that like his alt and shit? And this is
how he bets who he's going to go after. Should I
be concerned with some fucking motherfuckers I've been
around? But he carries that vibe. I think a lot of
people want to be Zach XPT,
but they're not on that level.
I think he comes from a very
prestigious
background in some sort of legal
is what I'd assume from talking with him for years.
He's a smart dude
but doesn't not make him a shit star.
No, exactly. I know when a motherfucker's throwing a grenade.
He's a smart ass dude.
I'm not going to get mad at somebody stirring the shit pot on the internet.
I've been trolling since I was 12 i'm 40 years old so it's like you know there's a there's a
world where like you get a mixture of genuine conversation and disingenuine conversation
you know and you get like a you get a mixed mixed behavior mixed feelings bro like i'm just gonna
take it as it is like i'm not even gonna get in the middle of it you know people asked me last
night to get in the middle of it i'm like like, nah, uh-uh. I don't give a fuck. To me, it's just a statement.
It's just a statement.
Yeah, people make statements that I'm not mad at them for.
There's no validity to it until I see receipts.
Exactly.
The only person I would take in this space
seriously, like if they told me some shit, it's probably
Prophets, to be honest with you. No shade
to anybody, but if Prophets told me
this person's a bad person, I'd probably be like, okay, know i'm gonna look into that i i believe i should don't believe
anything i say the point being is is like you should have those people that you can trust that
if they tell you something you should just go with it right and i think like in those this is
sure you can say okay i'm just going with what my friend says they're my friend okay that's fine
but i think like outside of that like those lists have no meaning to me.
Yeah, I feel the exact same way.
Most people on those lists, I've had no issues with those people.
I haven't seen them do anything.
Maybe I'm just blind, right?
Maybe I'm just dumb.
I don't know.
I haven't seen them do anything.
But we haven't seen Cupsie do anything.
We've already discussed the whole 200K a week a week inflows wait what the fuck do you mean
that means he's a real meme coin trader he knows what he's doing yeah yeah that's exactly what it
means you know hey but what so like hayden took 110 million out the market right like what does
that equal and as far as like you know liquidity pools for like mid-cap tokens like how much
how much liquidity was like so now that equals like what like four or five billion dollars right like in in means usually like usually like a one
you like a one to seven or like a one to eleven depending on how the contract's set up so one to
20 right i mean shit i've seen one to 20 even it seems like but but yeah i feel like you know the
lot of a lot of liquidity left with that hundred hundred two because they're like oh they all hit
the hills like a lot of the market makers ran $100 too because they're like, oh, they all hit the hills.
Like a lot of the market makers ran for fucking the hills when all that shit went down.
So I think like, you know, we're seeing more like a realistic vibe of what's going on outside
of like the markets that were being made.
And I think it's like pretty healthy for people.
And a lot of people should seek help.
Like literally, I think somebody should actually write the big book of DGEN, you know, DGEN
meme traders anonymous or some shit, you know, get actionable and, you know,
help some of us.
Cause I think, I think people have a serious fucking gambling issue is what
it breaks down to.
They're like, they're high on dopamine and you know,
they're coming off it right now.
I mean, people, people,
I think have kind of learned their lesson a little bit, right?
Like with the recent draw, don't try it on the definitely lesson.
You can tell the appetite and risk is really not there
for most people right now.
You say anything about a mean coin, you're just going to get
shade unless you're just a mean coin shiller, right?
And those people are just like addicts
that follow you, so they're just going to be like, yeah, yeah,
keep it going. But like,
you know, people that are actually
charting, you're getting blasted if
you try to throw out a mean coin right now.
So, I think there's a disdain for for risk right now for people um i think that you know it's
warranted it's warranted to a degree i do think like long-term visions are are better in a lot
of ways i think even while the hype was here people should have thought a little more long-term
and tried to you know kind of push some of that liquidity you had in your mean coins those
millions of dollars or thousands of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars and pulled some
of that out and put it in the stock market a little smarter with it or put it in your bank
account i got i got lucky i had some shit to pay in december and like any bit of money i had in the
market i stretched that shit the fuck out the market would know like it was just one of those
lucky things i was like in a space they were all talking shit about how high Mog was
and this and that.
Mog hit Coinbase, yada, yada.
You know, and I was like, all right, I'm fucking out.
There's a peep for everything, man.
I got lucky.
When you hear something hit an exchange,
you kind of know what's going on there, right?
Well, it was the bravado, too.
It was like the temperament
of most people at the time was just like
you could feel the euphoria just pouring off people.
And it took me about a week after
Magic Eden to Christmas
hit. And I'm like, all right.
I need to pay for some
shit. Let me go pay for some shit.
I will say this. I think
the market said, why is Provis
hanging up? Yeah, I won't shut up.
Alright, so before we go into
the next segment, everybody
check your fucking pulse.
Okay? Bitcoin
is not at $100,000
yet.
And you are dicking around
spending money on Netflix,
weed, Xanax, fucking milkshakes and desserts when you should be buying more Bitcoin.
This is the reminder you didn't know you needed.
This is also me talking to myself why I order Uber Eats.
But while I have you here, please like, comment, repost the room.
It's 7.30 p.mm it is a beautiful time to be alive
shout out to you thank you for being here i want to talk about suey now one six what's up
what's going on yeah no i'm just gonna put one in like take on golden's lists i love all the lists
like uh somebody said it makes everybody think twice basically right there's no need like if you're worried about a list then obviously you're around
some fucked people in general right like and like soul said we've been trolling that to me this is
the best call of duty lobby ever because nobody can censor me or mute my account because i told
somebody you're a scammer or you're a loser you a loser. So if you can't take the fucking heat.
Get out of the kitchen.
It's that simple.
I was also brought up.
Sticks and stones may break my bones.
But words will never hurt me.
I don't know if people forgot about that saying.
But if you can't take fucking words.
All of us here know that saying brother.
There's everybody here under 22 years old.
I remember that one.
Yeah so. That's all. if people can't take fucking words
or if they take it to the heart then it's usually a guilty conscience most of the time so
uh keep going golden i see you down there buddy i appreciate everything yeah facts golden's the
man my goat but um yeah no suey suey's the shit um i try. My GOAT. But, yeah, no. Sui. Sui's the shit.
I explained last time about the Ica and all that, that the leveling ended.
I tried to get you in profits before it stopped.
But we haven't spoken since.
You can still buy them on secondary. I need to walk through.
I'm telling you.
I'll pay you to Zoom call.
Walk me through.
I told you just to give me a shout.
I don't need to be paid, right? I you to Zoom call. Walk me through. I told you just to give me a shout. I don't need to be paid, right?
I like to share information.
That's all.
It's so easy, Profish.
Just go click around and read a little bit.
It's simple.
Easy UI, easy UX.
Love Sui.
I've been downloading and moving money around for sure.
Reading is hard, though.
You guys got this this I believe in you
yeah I mean that's coming
I don't know when the staking is going live
you can buy secondary right now
with already leveled up ones right but it's not
it's going to be more than what
if you just put it in yourself right but
every NFT does a basic
airdrop where you at on the Eka list, bro?
Honestly, I haven't even looked.
I just, yeah, it doesn't really bother me where I am on the list, to be honest.
But yeah, no.
Just more shit coming, right?
I don't know what you want me to talk about, right?
There's full sale
there's lotus finance that are coming these two products are super important right um
within the sui in general uh has to do with liquidity uh as well as bitcoin native bitcoin
being on sui not wrap bitcoin like real bitcoin you know something that no other chain has done
yet that's really important to me,
personally, to be able to hold native assets on Sui. Yeah, there's no other chain doing it, right?
Yeah, it's just things are just getting, just slowly getting rolled out and slowly just onboard more people, right? It's just a matter of if people want to do their due diligence or
just get in there, really.
Fuck, Suey's cheap, right?
But yeah,
there's a lot going on, to be frank.
Scotty, what's up, man?
Thanks for pulling up.
Can we address the video
on Scotty's
page?
Can we talk about that, Scotty? Wait, which one?
The last one you
posted. The Snow White one?
Yeah. Oh, isn't that great?
It, like, fits so well
with the way that she's talking. It fits perfectly, Matt.
just one thing about what
618 was saying. So, yeah yeah that used to be true the six and
stones axiom but we were experimenting with the lrad torture devices and we found out that if you
turn the volume like if you give it enough amperage and you turn it up real loud you can
actually break bones with words so i we can't use that adage anymore it just we didn't have the
amperage back when we were kids but then you know answer like way better now and you can you can
actually break bones with words just it's not important also i'm on golden's good list so i
don't really give a shit about the rest of you guys oh shit we got a good lister up here i can't
believe it that's why i don't know how to feel about Golden. He didn't put me on any
list yet, so I'm a little nervous.
I'm not on the good or
bad list. Well, he also said it
wasn't exhaustive either.
He made sure to notate
that if you're not on the list, you shouldn't
feel some sort of way. You can't put everybody on
the list.
I want free
Spock.
I should have missed Spock.
Spock is that. Fuck Kuro. I should have been secure a spot. Kuro isn't that.
Oh, shit.
No, but you need,
you know,
motherfuckers need validation
every day around here.
And I realized today,
actually,
I had this like aha moment.
I can't believe I never
put this together,
that blockchains validate things.
And that's why these
motherfuckers love blockchains
so much.
I want to engage me.
They want to.
What's up?
Talk to me. My up? Talk to me.
My bad.
Talk to me.
Nah, you're good.
I was just coming up wondering if anybody has talked about Sonic at all yet.
I haven't heard many people talking about it.
It's crazy to me.
Is it a Ponzi or not a Ponzi?
It's a rebrand of Phantom.
Yeah, it's a rebrand of Phantom.
They have, I think it's 200
million tokens getting ready to be airdropped in june um and then it'll be at full circulating
supply you could farm that shit do you know how much like money they raised for it or at all or
anything like that there's zero dollars varies because it was just it was it was just a rebrand
from phantom so right now at current market price it's a hundred
million dollars they're giving away uh in june and you could farm it risk-free you just you just
bring usdc over put it through like the rings protocol or beats protocol and fucking realistically
wash your money um and then get a free airdrop by the point system i don't see many people talking
about it so i just i just figured i'd come and talk about it how much money per point pin some shit um it's not exactly like
money per point right it's like um you have like multipliers and shit and then
so like the more that you use a protocol so the way it works is you go to a protocol you use the protocol that's
been like whitelisted right it's a whitelisted app now you use the protocol you'll earn the points
but on top of earning the points that protocol earns gems and by the protocol earning gems
they get an airdrop as well and most of the whitelisted dApps have talked about
giving their gem
airdrop
back to the users who help them
facilitate the on-chain volume.
So it's kind of like a double win, realistically.
But nobody's
fucking talking about it. It's the weirdest thing in the world.
Sub-second finality.
Crazy shit. When they approach and say you know if you
do this much volume you'll get this much i like that better because uh i've done the whole farm
thing like three times now this cycle and uh i could tell you it's uh not worth it yeah yeah
but when sounds like blast but when you yeah yeah okay so and and that's what
most people would say right is like it's like blast except for the differences is when you did
blast you were using a token that could appreciate or depreciate in value the difference here is you
can literally use usdc and and stake it or you could you could lend and borrow against it and
that's still the point system so realistically
like i said it's a zero loss it's a it's a zero loss uh risk realistically in my opinion the way
that i look at it yeah i mean if i can get points for just flowing liquidity through i do that but
like yeah there's literally what it is right now i'd lock anything on any platform no i mean you
don't you don't have to lock it
me personally I they have like I think it's rings protocol is what I'm on but rings protocol as a multiplier for you just staking your your
USDC so I stake my USDC and they give me it's it's kind of like a liquid staking because they'll give me back
STK USDC and so I still have the USDC that I can go and spend because it's liquid and I'm still
staking, but I'm, you know what I mean? I'm, I'm earning points at the same time. So, um,
Aave just launched over there. The token price keeps going up and down, obviously, but every
time it goes down, they break a billion dollar TVL again. Most people know think tvl is isn't a real metric and you'd be
kind of right but to me tvl is uh is a good indicator especially when you have usdc i think
they're up to like 300 to 400 million usdc on chain now um they're usually in the top two or
three chains of net inflow i i don't know man it's just it's crazy to me that nobody talks about it so
if you guys if you guys have some free time look into what sonic's doing rings protocol beats um
wag me there's a couple other you know i mean there's a couple others over there you could
you with the nfts over there um a couple uh like derp yeah derp is doing really well um i got over there a little bit late
in comparison to dirt but like um metro the metro nft um they have uh a dex over there as well
and they give you they give you money back uh through their point system for holding the nft
and then you're going to get money back on top of that
for the gems they're dropped for holding their NFT.
What's the marketplace for that?
I think it's called Paint Swamp.
Zazato, did you need to say something?
Yeah, I just wanted to kind of chime in.
I don't know if this is kind of like a shilling kind of platform,
but I just wanted to let you guys know about a token I'm dropping.
Oh, no.
He was about to give us the alpha on sonic no we're gonna go back to one go ahead one six um i thought of two things right when he taught when he brought up uh ave that's actually coming
to sui as well uh just something to look out for as well.
But something interesting to me is that the Sui wallet,
they're going to be incorporating video calls, text messages,
regular phone calls, all kind of Apple-oriented type of concept, right?
That's in beta.
Not a lot of people have actually even been able to play with it.
I don't talk about it much just because like i forget about it but to me that's fucking cool right to me personally uh where i'm not going to need a phone plan now i
could use my fucking wallet to do everything you're gonna be able to do normal phone calls
as well you don't not only wallets um there's a there's everything right emojis gifts um all that right but yeah that's
just something else that i wanted to bring up and point out when do you think sui or any change
at that matter is gonna make it to where i don't need to renew my passport every seven years when
when is that coming out when are we not gonna have to keep getting ids and real ids and all this shit anybody have an
answer for me what am i doing insurance and shit wasn't there a coin that like scanned your iris
and stuff like that maybe they might do something like that right um yeah so maybe that but yeah
send it to zero million percent and i don't know if i want my passport uh on the blockchain yet
and to be like unmutable for the next 10 years.
I don't want any of that either.
I do want this tech solve, though.
That's what I want.
I want I don't want to go to the DMV anymore.
I'm sick of the DMV.
We should have some other shit.
You know what, Prof?
That's the great equalizer in the world, though.
You know what I love is going to like the DMV in Malibu.
Nothing is great about sitting somewhere for seven fucking hours. Nothing's great about that.
Check this angle, though.
It's like, you'll be in there with the richest
motherfucker in the world, and they can't send
their secretary or their lawyer to do that shit
for them. And watching that motherfucker
humbled with us in the middle of the DMV
is one of the greatest moments you'll have in life.
There's a DMV right across from Universal
Music Group, right? Go there one
day. Get your ID there in California.
Get a California ID.
Fucks with your boy.
And then you'll see these people.
They're depressed as fuck.
They're so mad.
They're so rich.
And they're like, look at their watch.
They're talking to ladies all rude.
And these ladies are stone cold.
Like, not moved by these motherfuckers, not an inch.
And I love that about bureaucracy and the government is that that's the one part in the government that motherfuckers just they gotta go handle that shit they can't pay a
concierge or a service to go take that picture for them you know and so see i'd have to say that
like that depends on where you are right like i mean the dmvs that i go to it's five minutes i
literally walk in walk to the desk and that's it it's done um so i i like dmvs now i you're absolutely right profits i hated
them when i was in the inner city and stuff now i don't mind them i don't see anybody just the clerk
um it's pretty nice i had a pleasant experience at the irs as well i'll be honest it was a pretty
pleasant experience they were really nice they helped me a lot like are you trying to clear the
room out no i'm just telling you like like if you go to the
local irs office they're not like they're not tax collectors bruh they're there to help you
file paperwork and they're really fucking sweet ladies most federal workers are really sweet
people some of them you know like some of my best friends got irs all right all right all right
blaze how's your day going? I'm fucking, I'm chilling. I'm, uh, that's wild. So you, you surprised me. Um, yeah,
I'm just here. I'm grooming myself. Uh, my beard, uh, kind of cooling and listening to you guys
always on time listener, probably second time speaker. Yeah to be here yeah man that's why i pulled
you ass up here bro i love that please more ogs need to put up pull up what what are you
enjoying in the rwa sector right now if anything blaze so i kind of put that in my bio as a troll
um because i didn't see many rwas happening for the little guy uh and i see you know real world
assets fucking cars fucking expensive watches uh pokemon cards shit like that uh you know you can
put it on chain token out you know the whole the whole nine um but that's just the background where I came from, like owning a landscaping company,
buying cars, selling them, shit like that.
So it's just really me that's getting more serious, kind of.
Like I said, it was like a trove, but it's like,
this is really what I'm doing, so let me put in my bio type shit.
Got my ass!
Go ahead, William.
Don't they sound like kinky bedbugs?
I'm just saying Probably because I'm black
Bruh
That's it
That's definitely it
Oh shit, man
Nah, but The RWA thing It's definitely. Oh, shit, man. This is wild.
Nah, but the RWA thing, I will say, like, I hope it pops off, man.
It's just, I think you're kind of on point with that one statement you made, Blaze,
and that's, you know, you didn't see much for the little guy. You just saw the cars the houses the expensive watches but no rwh for
normal people and i think that's where a lot of people are less a lot of projects miss the mark
it's like you you want the average consumer money but you're putting up there they're sitting for
you it's just not for you it's for everybody who has money not for you and that really doesn't
attract any type of liquidity.
And I think a lot of these RWAs have lost the plot
with the way that they've been angling themselves.
I've also seen a lot of them just posting, you know,
photos of them going to the government
and sitting down and dining with like government officials.
And people in crypto are not government friendly.
We don't like people from the government.
I don't know why they think this is a good. Oh, we're advocating for crypto. No, no, no, you're not. You're sitting there day in and day out having dinners with these people colluding with them.
about it. I think they're not thinking about it, how
it looks for them, right?
To try and get people to invest in them from crypto.
And then you're sitting
down with the same people that rob us on a
daily basis through taxes.
Facts.
Oh, shout out
to this dirt whale right here. What's up, man?
What's up, dude?
I came up to tell Will, just call out Scott by name,
you rat.
Nah, nah, nah.
Yeah, no, no, no.
We all know who you're talking about, bro. Stop talking
shit, dude. Don't be mad.
What are y'all talking about?
Scott is not the only one that's doing it.
There are a lot of
RWA projects doing this.
Scott joined the Illuminati prophetsets and Will said that he didn't
Get invited because he's too much of a nerd
Illuminati
No honestly I'm shocked at what Mani just said
I'm like what is did I miss something
Nah Mani's been watching
Scott's profile
Nah but I'm good bro
I'm hanging out DCA Laughing-ing, laughing at everybody who, like, didn't make enough money at this last bowl.
So I'm just hanging out, dude, you know, accumulating.
Wait, this last bowl?
Are you telling me that we're in a bear market, Manny?
The bowl's not over.
Oh, cool.
Thanks, guys.
I really appreciate your in-depth financial analysis and your robust understanding of these economic markets, bro.
I have one if you want it. I have one.
Number go down.
Thank you. What's up?
Frankie definitely has it. What's good?
Yo, what's good? I feel compelled now to fucking launch into my fucking shit i was
gonna come to this maybe a little more gracefully but um seeing as how you got people up here saying
that we're in a bear market let me go ahead and uh and spin it real quick um i got one more there
we go okay so i just put a few charts up top. What's going on, Profits? How are we doing?
Hey, splendid, man.
Thank you for asking.
Hope you're doing well.
Appreciate you.
Yeah, for sure.
Fucking long day, man.
Jesus fucking Marian Joseph.
Anyways, I'm still bullish.
I don't think we're in a bear.
You know, if you look, I think one of the most important things you can look at,
I don't have a chart that reflects this.
I could get it, is that we're bouncing off the 50- moving average. And we're still in an uptrend, despite the intense volatility, the extremely high amount of uncertainty in markets.
And really, what can be described as a debt refinancing air pocket,
where there's not enough money to refinance debt invariably leads to economic crises,
Bitcoin's holding up very well. And so let me just run it down. You can go to the second set
of charts. It starts with a blue and white chart in the top left corner. And I think this is one
of the biggest reasons why I think we still have more bullishness ahead, but it's not going
to be for a couple quarters. Don't get me wrong. So you want to call this little period that we're
now a bear market, you can call it that. But, you know, it's, you know, we operate in these
four-year cycles and these four-year cycles are based around debt refinancing. And the fact is
that we're still in a debt refinancing cycle. The debt hasn't been
refinanced. We haven't seen the liquidity necessary to refinance debt injected into markets.
Liquidity is the driver of asset prices. And so I believe we still have bullishness ahead. But
this first chart here, the white and blue lines, ISM over GMI, that's Raul Paul and Julian Biddle,
financial conditions index. You can see that starting at the end of Q4iddle, financial conditions index. You know, you can see that starting at
the end of Q4 of 2024, financial conditions tumbled pretty, pretty low. They got pretty low.
And we felt the effects of that in Q1. Now, we were also feeling the effects of, you know,
tariffs and trade wars, uncertainty from Trump, a global slowdown spurred on by doge cuts and by
immigration reform in the states. And it really kind of exacerbated this.
And I think it brought sentiment to a very, very low point, the lowest that it's been in quite a
while. But, you know, the ISM, it measures the expansion and contraction of economies.
So this is this is things like manufacturing, outlooks for new orders. How is your business
looking? Are you hiring or are you laying people off? Are you ready to give out bonuses or are you kind of pulling back a little bit? So over, you know, and that's that
white number. So if you zoom in, you can see 49. So when you're underneath 50 on the ISM,
that means the economy is contracting. And when you're above 50, it means the economy is expanding.
And what you can see is that last cycle, you know, if you look at 2020, you go a little bit
over to the right, you look at where we were on the ISM.
We were peaked out in the ISM.
We were getting close to 65, 70 on the ISM, which is peak expansionary conditions.
And remember that liquidity is a function of the business cycle.
It's a function of more earnings, more consumption, more GDP, more investing, more speculating. And we have yet to
come into that. This cycle feels different because I believe it's been pushed out to the right
by a couple of things. I think really that it's been pushed out because
we have been in tighter monetary policy from the Fed for longer. China also had to pull a lot of liquidity out of
the system, and we'll get to that unseasonably. And then we've also had Trump coming in here and
kind of shaking the bottle. So we just haven't had a chance really to come into this business cycle
and to come into this debt refi cycle yet. But we have to refinance debt. That's the point of
these four-year cycles. And I think China has a really big role to play in that. So if you go to the next chart, what you'll see
is the People's Bank net liquidity injections. Now, if you look at those last three bars,
you'll see that they're injecting quite a bit of money. But if you look to the left of those,
you'll see that not too long ago, they were actually pulling money out of the system.
This is because the dollar was so high. You've heard you've heard it before. You've heard it. I'm sure the dollar, I mean, the dollar to go
lower, DXY needs to fall, DXY is too high. Okay. That's, that's the dollar wrecking ball effect.
Okay. So when the dollar gets too strong, it essentially puts, it puts, it's a, it's a,
it's a throat grip to China essentially because their currency is dollar denominated. And so
as the dollar gains value, their currency, the denominated. And so as the dollar gains value,
their currency, the yuan, loses value. And that has implications for tradings and exports and
imports and all that fun stuff. And so what China was having to do at a point when they really
needed to be injecting liquidity is they were pulling it out of the system, exacerbating this
dip in economic conditions and creating a bit of a liquidity vacuum.
And especially at a time when the Fed was still in quantitative tightening,
we just didn't have the liquidity necessary. If you go to the next chart, you can see that
represented in a different way. You can see the PBOC liquidity injections. This chart's a little
bit old. And so it shows that dip in liquidity as a fresh thing that's happening now. But really, the reason I brought this chart is because you can see the connection
between the People's Bank and world economic momentum. And you can see that when PBOC
operations go up, when liquidity injections rise, world economic momentum also rises.
And so one thing that Raul Palantyne has really been banging on about, and I agree with them,
is that China has a bigger role to play in this than the Fed does. The Fed isn't the story of this cycle. China's the story of this cycle, like it was in 2017, when the Fed was in kind of
in a tightening phase, and we still rip roared. We had a great alt season. Bitcoin did fantastic
because China was putting in a shit ton of liquidity. And they have to do the same this
time. They need about 30% debt monetization or about $6 trillion worth of liquidity injections. Now, whether they're
going to inject liquidity or devalue their currency against real assets like gold,
that has yet to be seen. But one thing's for sure, they need to increase balance sheet capacity.
They need to increase liquidity to refinance debt. If you go to the next chart, you'll see something to keep in mind here
is also why I think we've been seeing a bit of a hit to alt, particularly U.S. investors' risk
exposure is going down. If you zoom in onto the right, going into 25, we saw a significant decrease
in the risk exposure of U.S. investors.
And I think that has a really big impact on altcoins.
It also has an impact on Bitcoin.
If you go to the next set of charts, what you'll see here is a pie graph that represents the systematic influences on Bitcoin.
Investor risk appetite accounting for 22%, global liquidity accounting for about 41%,
and then the remaining 37% or so,
you know, depending on what gold does. And so this, I think, is another big reason why Bitcoin's
been struggling. Investor risk appetite clearly is just not there. But I think that was largely due
to all the turmoil and all the nonsense that we were seeing. I call it nonsense. I mean,
they do it for good reasons, right? I'm not going to pretend to know better than percent, but whatever it was, it was volatile
and it kind of gave a lot of uncertainty. Now, the next chart, what you'll see is a World Central
Bank liquidity heat map where red represents tightening liquidity and green represents
expanding or loosening policy, more liquidity, lower interest rates, more money, essentially.
And what you'll see is that central banks around the world are really entering a net easing mode.
But the problem is the dollar's been high.
It's called the dollar wrecking ball for a reason.
It's kind of been laying waste to the global financial system.
And it does that.
It does head about this time of year when the dollar gets really high.
It did the same thing in 2017.
Trump won.
Dollar went high.
And then a few months later, Trump started to take measures to get the dollar low because
he's even said at this cycle that a strong dollar is not good for anybody right now.
It's just not what we want.
It's really not even that great for the U.S., to be completely honest with you.
And so, you know, what this means,
and there's a lot going on in the macroverse, but I think the most important thing to focus on
really is liquidity, because liquidity is a driver of asset prices. And this is,
you know, we're in this liquidity cycle. And I think that's the most important thing to focus
on. And because I think that the biggest risk to markets in 2025 is what's called a debt
refinancing air pocket, which is
being exacerbated by a global growth slowdown spurred on by Trump and team, you know, making a
really a really drastic shift in U.S. economic policy from a U.S. economy propped up by government
debt to another paradigm of the U.S. economy fueled by private sector growth, private credit
creation as we try to get other countries to come and invest in America, you know, as part of the U.S. economy fueled by private sector growth, private credit creation, as we try
to get other countries to come and invest in America as part of the tariffs. We're trying
to get away from being a debt-ridden nation. Now, whether or not they can do that remains to be seen,
but it's no small feat, and it's things that are shaking us up. But one thing that has to happen,
unless they're comfortable with an economic crisis is they've got to get more
liquidity in the system. So if you go to the next slide, you'll see advanced economies debt
as a percentage of domestic liquidity. And so debt to GDP, that's a nebulous thing. GDP represents
rising debt within a fiat credit system. GDP is a fake metric. It's a completely nebulous thing.
What's important is debt to liquidity
because you need balance sheet capacity to refinance debt. Gone are the days of markets
being new capital formation mechanisms where interest rates are the most important thing
because that's the cost of new capital. If interest rates are 2.5% and you create a million dollars,
you also have to pay 2.5% interest on that. That's not the game anymore. The game now is that capital markets are debt refinancing mechanisms. And when you're
trying to refinance debt, when you've got a debt-ridden economy, liquidity is the all-important
metric. And so you can see this chart very clearly shows you that when you dip below the dotted line
into ample liquidity, you get asset bubbles because there's ample liquidity. They have more than
enough liquidity to refinance debt, and liquidity is a driver of asset prices. Conversely, when you
get above that dotted line and you start to not have enough liquidity, you get refinancing tensions
ultimately lead to economic crises. And this has been spurred on by the Fed staying tighter for longer, still in QT,
we still have high interest rates, and also the PBOC being slow to inject liquidity because the
dollar is strong. And Trump is doing this purposefully to bring China to the negotiating
table, to bring other countries to the negotiating table. So, Frankie, let me ask you this,
when they come to the table to negotiate, what do you foresee happening then? Whatever they want. I mean, honestly, it's, it's, you know,
I think, I think with China, it has something to do with the trade deficit. Um, and if, and if you
want to learn more about trade deficits, uh, shameless plug, I've got a telegram where I
upload daily YouTube clips. I don't sell you anything. I don't shill anything. I don't want
any money. It's just there to help you learn and be educated. Sorry if I just threw out there um no worries yeah for sure i'll wish you later don't worry about it appreciate you
that was um that was actually a really good thesis did you even breathe through that
no i was doing like i was doing like that fucking didgeridoo like breathing in through my nose and
out through my mouth like you know what i mean fucking uh what do they call it what do they call it um circumventilating i was circumventilating through
the whole thing there you go that's the right way to do it right but really i mean just to put a bow
on it i know i said a lot there but but really guys you know they they liquidity had they the
currency must debase they have to inject liquidity or we're going to have refinancing tensions we're
going to have an economic crisis and so these central banks they will refinance to either prevent a crisis or in response to one and we you know we shouldn't be
looking for like a bailout necessarily but this is the world we live in we live in a world of of
currency debasement and the optical rise of of asset prices through currency debasement if you
if you look yeah but a lot of that is not, it's not consumer bailout.
It's company bailouts, bank bailout.
It's those type of bailouts.
And that's a problem.
That's a real problem.
It's a problem for Main Street, for sure.
But for our purposes,
we're looking for assets to go up.
We're looking for monetary inflation hedges
like Bitcoin to go up.
And we're looking for assets like Ethereum
and Solana and Sui that are establishing network effects to go up. When liquidity comes in-
We're also looking to tighten that distance between the middle class and the rich. We're
also looking to tighten that gap between the poor and the middle class. And they only seem to get
further and further away. And if you put half your population
on the streets so 10 percent of your population can live a good life it's not going to be a good
a good place no no i agree but that's i mean and that's what we've got i mean that essentially is
what we've got and that's you know it's part of trump's plan right is he's like we're gonna you
know it's main street's turn to eat but they can't they can't do this for very long.
At least not if he wants to get reelected.
And that's why I keep saying it, too.
Reelected?
He's not going to get reelected?
If he wants to win midterms.
Well, I mean, maybe put a stopper on that notion as well, because he's already floated the idea of a third term, but we don't have to go there.
It's definitely not something that I'd like to see happen.
I mean, I don't think anybody thinks that's going happen i think that whole conversation is brother but i'm with
you i agree with you on that no no i i think anybody who's being reasonable right and now
you know i i think there's always a percentage chance but if you're if you're a betting person
would you bet on the odds of that happening or the odds of that not happening i would bet on
the odds of that not happening yeah i would definitely have i would definitely have the over
on not happening but man i'll tell you the under and you'd be you know you'd be surprised man
you'd be surprised anyway he did drop a meme token he did drop a meme token we're getting out of my
wheelhouse here but i mean yeah man again it's it's it's forget about forget about liquidity
forget about macro forget about finance forget about dollar strength and China and all this shit.
Does Trump want to rally markets now or does he want to rally markets into the midterms and secure control of Congress for another two years?
Midterms, which is why likely we're going to continue to drive down for the rest of the year and keep forward.
Yeah.
So we'll likely see liquidity flow and then we'll start to to push into next year and we'll see a good year.
Yeah.
What?
That's one anticipation.
Absolutely.
I'd put my cards on that for sure.
We're seeing an intentional
kitchen sinking of the economy
where they,
and it's the Reagan playbook.
He's been driving it down on purpose.
100%.
And a lot of people
haven't figured it out yet.
That's what tariffs are.
You know,
I don't think he's very serious
about tariffs.
Well, tariffs are taxes.
A lot of it, exactly, and it's inflationary, and that's also what's kind of spooking markets a little bit and driving 10-year yields up.
It's driving buying pressure down, too. It's also driving down the consumer to want to spend.
So it's driving spending down, too, which is doing what? It's deflating inflation, too.
So you'll not only start off the year with liquidity flow, you'll start off the year also with low inflation.
Yeah. Well, we're getting into stagflation territory because, well, PCI came down low,
but PCE is expected to remain. I think we're moving out of that.
What's that? I think we're moving out of stagflation. I think we already were in stagflation.
I mean, I hope so. We'll have to wait for the PCE print. But growth is certainly slowing down.
And if we see growth slowing down when inflation is rising, that's stagflation. Now, if we can see
growth coming down and inflation coming down, if we get a soft PCE print this week, that's really
good news. That's really good news. Don't you think growth and spending has been coming? I think
it's been coming down big. I think growth and spending have been coming down. Well, we see
that in PCI, right? PCI came in at 2.4, underneath expectations of 2.5. But the key metric to look
at really what the Fed uses to gauge inflation is PCE, which comes out at the end of the month.
And then also, we had the University of Michigan survey come out, you know, in consumer inflation expectations,
got up to like 31.8,
but I don't put too much stock
in the University of Michigan survey
because I think it's very politically biased.
Anyways, guys, I think we go a lot higher in 26,
in late 2025.
Forget all the charts, delete all the charts,
log off, fucking throw your phone
what's the lowest we go this year zero i think the bottom could i think the bottom could have
been in but if if trump continues on with this trade war and we get no this is not this is not
the bottom because it has to be more shakeout has to be more scary i think so i think we rally i
think we rally into may
and then we go through another round of probably pretty substantial pain throughout the summer
you guys are enjoying meme coins too much one dollar bob one dollar bob
i think the final shakeout comes over the summer and then really i mean really when really when
it's time excuse me when it's time to run,
we're going to fucking sprint, man, you know? And that's the thing too, is like this, you know,
like all this business cycle, dollar stuff, Trump tariffs, all this is all stuff that Trump can
reverse on the, on basically with the, with the, with the wave of his hand, you know? I mean,
he put a 90 day pause on, on tariffs, excluding China and look at what the markets did. They
giga rallied. And I wouldn't be surprised if that was a bit of a test run on his point. So, you know, he realizes the power that he has over
markets and he's, he's going to utilize it to, to achieve his long-term goals. And they've come on.
Now's a good time to buy. I think that was an excellent time to buy. And in regards of the
further downside, I think the biggest risk is, is, is not being, is not being exposed to this
asset class. Now, which assets go up? It's up for you to decide.
But my belief is that I'm looking for tokens and projects and builders that are establishing
network effects. I'm looking to Metcalfe's law here. I'm trying to find established network
effects, revenue generating. All in on Sui, got it.
What's that?
So you're all in on Su so we got it what's that so you're all in on so we got it i have a i
do have a big bet on i am bullish on suey that is true but i'm not all in on what's that
no i was saying i do too i i have a massive bet on that yeah man and i think it'll be and i'll
give you guys some alpha too on that you know and you know one thing that's always what that
always is an outsized play if you see something something like Sui run, then the Sui ecosystem is going to run.
And so have a look over at Cetus, which is the leading decks on Sui, really good volume
and a really low market cap under 100 mil.
That's the leading decks on Sui.
I think we in a in a in an alt season and even an alt season slightly resembling the
ones in the past where Sui has a a a good, you know, kind of a kind of a good narrative.
I think things like Cetus do very well there's also sui lend so like lending on any of these like on any of these up and coming
l1s that are establishing network effects i think is a really good play um and then also i have a
little bit in uh sui whip it's sui with a p at the end and that's a uh kind of like a launch pad
almost like a c to five kind of gaming launchpad.
You don't have any deeper walrus?
I've heard about walrus.
I'm bullish on that.
I don't know too much about it, but I do know that there are some good... All right, quick rundown.
Instead of a normal $396 a year website that you need to upkeep, it only costs roughly about like $36 a year.
Fantastic. costs roughly about like 36 a year for any website uh to any protocol any protocol any
blockchain can put their minting site there and everything like that right uh and so what are
they doing they're just saving people time and money money and on-chain storage that'll never
go out of style man saving people time and money will always be in style that's always a safe bet
and that's and i will say that cedis That's always a safe bet. And I will say that
Cetus is definitely one
of the great competitors there, but
I do know that there's something
in my mind much better coming that will
yeah.
So let's just keep an eye out for that.
You said that's Walrus?
No, no, no, no.
It'll be
announced shortly. Alright, well. Keep us app, no, no. You're planning to post this app? It'll be announced shortly.
All right, well.
Keep us appraised, brother.
Is there any data that shows
basically
a correlation between market effects
and voter decision-making?
Where it's basically like
you need to do this thing
this many months in
advance for the voter to associate the improvement in the economy with candidate X.
One more time?
So we all know that good economy bodes well from a voting standpoint for whoever's in power,
because people, either correctly or incorrectly i'm sure
at whatever point in history you look at it's true or untrue or untrue or true to a varying degree
but the association is that if things are going well economically while this person is power
they're more likely to vote for the person who's in power which is what you're saying for the
midterms the economy is improved by the midterms but But what's the lead time? I wonder if there's data on the lead time. If the improvement isn't in place by this time,
then the majority of voters won't make the association
and vote the way you want them to.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I hear what you mean.
No, that'd be interesting.
If I knew how to work trading view a little bit better,
I might be able to spend something up.
That's kind of what I'm working on. If that data existed, that trading view a little bit better, I might be able to spend something up. That's kind of what I'm working on.
If that data existed, that'd be a pretty good indicator, which is basically you can sort of expect in the worst case scenario, this month is going to be the worst case scenario, this is the month that will start to improve.
Well, whatever that data looks like, man, they've got to do it sooner than later.
to do it sooner than later. And I think by the beginning of Q4, midway through Q4, even the end
of Q3, I think we'll start to see a significant shift. And we'll start to see, because really all
this good news that we're seeing should be pushing Bitcoin and ETH to new all-time highs,
regulatory clarity, bullishness from the administration, all these things really should be sending us. But the macro overcast is kind of, you know,
dampening. It's a wet blanket, you know, so to speak. And, you know, when, and this is, you know,
Matt Hogan says this, and he's the CIO at Bitwise, when you have good news in these kind of conditions,
it doesn't just go away. What happens is it gets kind of stored for future as future energy and eventually you know it'll be able to be priced in
and so i think once you know once we get all this shit behind us i think a lot of good news is going
to get priced in in a very short amount of time and along with the liquidity that does have to
come in to markets unless they're willing to suffer through a financial crisis which i'm just not sure that they are doesn't that kind of show that uh the news doesn't make the chart
at that point then like this is firsthand showing us that all this bullish news it doesn't change
the charts uh and you can kind of say it the other way around too negative news doesn't change the
charts either correct i i believe that liquid that narrative follows price i always admit of
the belief that narrative follows price.
And so if we're ripping, like if we were ripping right now,
let's say ETH, perfect example.
If ETH was ripping right now,
you know how many 101 reasons Ethereum experts
we would have telling us why ETH is the best
and all these things happening on ETH
and look at that and look at this
and no one would be able to bat an eye at it
because look at ETH, it's doing well.
And so, you know, it'sβ
But Frankie, remember, when this happens, remember, I was the one telling you,
there's a few of us out here, we never fucking switched up our stance on ETH, bro.
So when it rockets, just remember, we told you, bro.
Hey, whoa, told me.
I know you have, but I'll remember that, and I'll remember that. But just don't forget me when we're sitting on the moon, whoa. Told me. I know you have, but I'll remember that. And I'll remember that.
But just don't forget me when we're sitting on the moon, bro.
Oh, not at all.
We'll be shaking hands in the back channels.
Absolutely fucking mogging everybody.
Dude, effing, effing, effing it, bro.
What's that?
Yeah, it'll be a good day.
I think ETH will have its day.
I'm not sure if it's going to go to 10K or anything like that.
But, you know, I think we've seen that if it's going to go to 10K or anything like that.
But, you know, I think we've seen that if anything's going to herald an alt season, it's going to be ETH.
Because if it was Solana's job to rally the alts, we would have had an alt season already because Solana's already done fantastic this cycle.
But, you know, and I think the reason that I think the reason this cycle feels different is because ETH hasn't been allowed to break all-time highs because ETH is allergic to restrictive monetary policy.
ETH is allergic to QT.
And that's one thing too, guys, is like we're still in fucking QT.
Like, yeah, they slowed it down.
And, yeah, Powell's been a little less hawkish.
But we're still in quantitative tightening.
You know, there's still a lot of balance sheet runoff that's happening. you just you can't expect anything you can't expect anything really anything just full thought
can't expect anything while that's happening you know and that's that's why this cycle feels
different and i think eth was not allowed to break all-time highs because we were in monetary policy
i think the reason why we were in tighter monetary policy was for two reasons because of all the
stimulus that we had during COVID, we had to stay
higher for longer, higher interest rates for longer, tighter policy for longer to offset that
inflation. But also because Janet Yellen and Jay Powell, really during a time when I don't think
assets should have been doing particularly well, they were goosing the economy with an insane
amount of hidden stimulus. They'd come out and say, oh, we're, you know, we're reducing balance
sheet, we're, you know, we're reducing our balance sheet holdings and we're in quantitative
tightening.
But in the back, they were issuing a fuck ton of short-term debt to the tune of about
$6 trillion.
And they started that in about the end of 2023.
So that was responsible for the rally we had going into 24 and through to the end of Q1.
And then, you know, Trump winning was kind of just an animal spirits moment.
But really, while we were raging on from the euphoria of Trump winning,
economic conditions were actually tightening,
setting the stage for a pretty bearish Q1.
Yeah, but like you said, right, it's a four-year cycle.
So it doesn't matter who's the president at that point.
No matter what, it's going to do what it does.
I have a chart that can show that and it's dude and like and that's the thing
man it's like and i tell people too like there's like just a fundamental misunderstanding of like
how a credit like a fiat credit system works the debt's not meant to be paid off guys it's
literally not meant to be paid off in a in a fiat credit system the goal of the fiat credit system
is to expand the goal of the fiat credit system is to expand.
The goal of the fiat credit system is to add more credit units to the system.
And I posted a chart that can show you that no matter who the president is or what party they claim, the currency will always expand. I mean, there's two ways to hyper-communism.
You can go through fascism or you can go through capitalism.
We're taking the long road.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a little bit more scenic.
It's like taking the one of the California coast. You could have
done it faster. You know, you're going to get
there eventually.
Exactly. Shouts out to the
bro-ligarchy. You know?
I heard that term the other day.
It had me dying, bro. The bro-ligarchy.
That was pretty good.
All right.
Thank you,
everybody. That's Shundin. we have the president of web 3 on the stage golden
uh golden i was talking about your list earlier um do you mind going into it is it a is it a
parody post um how you doing i respect your list by the way even though i'm not on the good ones
but it's fine i don't respect the list for that exact same reason.
There we go.
What's up, Golden?
You in a fucking farm or you're what?
I don't farm.
The, uh, actually I delete people.
But the, uh,
it's good enough.
The, um,
I'm fine.
I'm fine.
Yeah, there's no parody post.
Okay, that's what I thought.
It's not a troll.
So you meant that with...
No, not at all.
You meant that with your heart and soul.
I don't know what I meant with my heart and soul,
but it's not a parody post.
I just make it up out of thin air either.
I mean, some people don't like to face the reality of the situation,
you know,
when they get got, got. Um, and, uh, you know,
here we are.
Do you mind that I ask you anything about the list?
You can ask me a few questions or may or may not answer them, but go ahead.
Yeah. I'm not going to get too deep. Don't worry. I just, I was saying earlier how,
you know, not going to give my opinion specifically, because I'm sure you did some
sort of research to come up with the list. However, I was just saying how, like, for example,
I saw a comment of somebody who was like, oh, EZ's on this list and he's irrelevant. It could
have been anybody. God's on anybody. This person's on this list that completely cancels out the entire list.
I feel like that's so one-sided in our space. And I don't know if it's productive to think that way.
So I was asking everybody their thoughts on that specific comment. I don't necessarily think an
FNF group is bad if you're not doing anything bad.
But yeah, so what do you think about that?
Do you think that just because one name may be wrong, it means everything else is worthless?
I feel like not even in that list example.
I'm just saying in general.
I see that a lot.
Oh, this is wrong.
The whole shit's invalidated.
Fuck the post. Of course not. No, of is wrong. The whole shit's invalidated. Fuck the post.
Of course not. No, of course not. You already knew the answer to that question. You're a reasonable person.
Intelligent. Yeah, I mean, of course not. Also, worry whether that's even wrong or not. Right? See, the thing is like, you know, in this space, people,
credibility is everything, right? It's hard-earned reputation and it's really easy to lose it very,
very quickly. And that's true for anything in life. like you know you can find me credible or not that's
okay i don't i don't really care and if people are taking these lists seriously then i guess
that's because like i have some level of credibility otherwise you know then who cares right
um yeah i don't know i mean i mean people can you know i noticed a bunch of alt accounts of
the same people responding to my post and they're like no no that's a good person no no no he's a
credible person why is he on this list like he does good calls i'm like all right you played
yourself you know because you know you got five. Well, not only do you have a guilty conscious, but you look increasingly desperate every time you do it.
So, you know, like if you're going to come for the king, like, you know, don't miss.
Right. So like I don't really like you can come at me with an army.
But like if you if you knew anything about me, like in real life, I'm about the single last person on this platform that anyone would want to get an entanglement with for various reasons
you mean like a jada smith entanglement exactly and that's exactly what i said it for i knew you
were going to say that see that's my co-host cody he knows what's up man he knows what's up, man. He knows what's going on. Best co-host in the game.
Yeah.
Hey, thank you for answering, dude.
Appreciate it.
I don't know.
I don't think there's enough creative conversation.
We've had these talks before.
We could have these conversations, too.
Like, I don't know. I just, you know, I'm happy that more people are having any sort of conversation, anything.
There's a lot of weird shit that gets overlooked.
Well, that's it, right?
That's all you need to know, right?
There's a lot of weird shit.
So, like, a common, this is my, this is the last thing that I gotta go, gotta get back to work.
But, like, the, there's a couple things just to spot you
know um one is you know like what about ism so like in the common same things and this is true
for like just listen to people on spaces like oh this person well they're not as bad as this person
huh does that make anything the other person did does that actually like absolve that person of anything
i'm not talking from like a morality standpoint i'm just talking like facts right i don't care
about the morality just like straight facts no of course it doesn't because it's conceptually
called whataboutism you know and people i've schooled people on this multiple times on spaces
then i'm not going to do it again here but but there's a lot of that going around.
Oh, this FNF group is way worse than this one.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's like comparing one cancer to another type of cancer.
There's still a cancer, right?
It's Spider-Man meme, bro.
Yes, the lesser of two evils, yeah.
Right, so there's that going around.
Then there's, you know, protecting self-interest. Then there's there's the oh he's just poor or he got
burned by coins well i'm not poor and i don't really buy a lot of coins so my hands aren't
burned from it so you know those are all just like you know misguided you know folly attempts
to attack credibility and give people uh who otherwise lack it fully as though they're trying to find some cracks in an armor when, frankly, there aren't any.
conversation because most assuredly nobody in their right mind would would would dare actually
engage in an actual debate with me because i would run circles around so fast her head would spin
i'm actually very nice to people on this app believe it or not so you are i've heard plenty
you are absolutely nice and you're very you're unemotional when it comes to debating and i think
that's important
yeah and like nothing i'm doing is a debate nor is it coming from like a place of uh you know ill will or like hatred i don't hate those people there's just some weird going around
you know some of them don't like how they can't respond back because they're blocked oh well you
know what you know what that's too bad for them no i really don't it's really and
it's really too bad for them isn't it because you're here's the reality right like i don't have
a lot of time you know and if i'm going to spend time on this app like i don't want to expose myself
to a bunch of poison right so like muting people is insufficient for me because i'll forget like
you know what this person did or did not do or said or did not say you know from a couple years
ago but if you block them then they're blocked so they change their account name which is very
common people rebrand they change their account name but they keep their account then you have
a muting like oh shit why did i fall into that trap again by that person i should have known
better well now you're blocked.
But yeah, you can go cry about it on your timeline that I blocked you.
Probably a reason for it.
Maybe you should do a little, you know, like self-introspection sometime.
I don't know.
Or like, you know, get a life.
All right.
Yo, thank you.
I appreciate you.
You got to get back to work, man.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, what's up?
My co-hosthost what's going
on why wasn't jp mullen on your list i don't know man that's just saved you could save people six
billion dollars man you know what you could do a lot of things for you you know keep it up though
man you're on my good list all right and you don't want to be on another list. How the fuck did Kuro get on the good list before you go?
Kuro's one of my closest confidants in this space, man.
No, I know.
I'm fucking around.
Kuro is just embracing people and mistaken for being a bad guy.
Kuro is off the hook with me.
He's repented for his sins, so he's fine.
Kuro's great, man.
The people are on that positive, credible list, I like all those people, but it wasn't the top 20 list of people I like.
It was the people I find credible.
It doesn't mean that I agree with everything they say.
It doesn't mean I agree with half the things.
It doesn't mean I buy the things they push.
It doesn't mean any of that.
It just means I will listen to them.
I have respect for them. i will take under advisement that's all it that's all it meant by that post and all these people were like responding because you know what a lot of people don't read
they're like well i thought you like this person i'm like it's not a post about who i like right
that's not what i wrote it for it's about credible and it didn't say honest although honesty
and integrity obviously are you know fall in line with you know credibility it wasn't like my
favorite people although there are a lot of my favorite people there's an obvious overlap because
I have respect for them it wasn't the point nor is this like those posts I had before like this
is the list of scammers I didn't say they were scammers.
Read the language.
Not what I said.
Don't read too much into it.
And then draw your own conclusions.
That's all it is.
Don't describe something I said that I didn't say or something that isn't.
But I was just, you know, I was listening to like there are like two spaces
about earlier today i was like half listening and driving to work to one of them and i was just like
eating my imaginary bag of popcorn you know and listening to people you know on the space like uh
you know gogo and you know and that sk guy who you know did uh whatever coin I forgot what it was, the Slurf coin, and Belogi and all these ass clowns
talking about it.
I'm like, really?
But anyway.
Dude, fuck those ass clowns, eh?
Well, not even that.
It's more just like a who cares.
That's actually more damaging to people like that.
If you'd actually, if you just don't care about them,
that's like the worst possible thing you could do for those people
is they don't get the sunlight that they're like craving so badly.
You know, it's not to ask them or they're just like, who are they?
That's what I'm, but anyway uh anyway you know it's not a
yeah i mean some people need a reality check like uh you know some of the across the pond people
didn't like to put pingo on the thing well hey buddy you may not want to associate with that
50.eth guy in the ponke coin maybe you don't want to do gm if you gm responses and reply a guy to 50.eth maybe next time you won't be on a list if you do
that you know what blows my mind you can leave whenever by the way i appreciate that but yeah
the uh you just brought up something about that coin there's a lot of these these people
on instagram and they're not on Spaces on purpose.
Maybe they listen, but they know not to get on the stage, and they don't hold.
Those are the sneaky motherfuckers you got to be careful for.
Let's say there's three scammers.
There's 30 for every three little motherfuckers that want to get on Spaces.
That's insane.
Go on YouTube.
Go on YouTube. Go on YouTube.
But anyway, yeah.
I can get on any stage.
If you ever house the space, anybody, anybody in this room.
Yeah.
And there's Fiddy on your stage.
I'm not going to your stage.
I can get on any fucking stage with any of my ops.
Even books is dumbass.
I cannot get on a stage with Fiddy.
I'm sorry.
I'm just putting that out there.
It's not personal.
If you have a space and he's there, I can't go.
Hey, you're not wrong.
And, you know, if you're going to reply guy to that guy,
there's going to be consequences from my standpoint.
You know what?
Time to look in the mirror, buddy.
Maybe you like that Ponke check.
I don't know.
But when you reply to 50.eth
and give them a platform,
and that coin is associated
with a lot of the other coins
that were in that post I had today,
well, you may not like it,
but, you know, tough luck.
Thank you, Walden.
Appreciate you. One last thing i'll get off my soapbox yeah yeah one last time i'll get off my soapbox because i don't like to really some of the nicest people in the space
seemingly nicest people in the space outward facing are actually some of the biggest deceivers. And I've seen this
happen over and over and over again. And let me tell you something, you're not going to put,
you're not going to do that to me because my bullshit detector is about as, is about as
formidable as they are because part of my job in real life is to detect bullshit. A nice try
if you're applying yourself yourself if you think you're
doing it on me however because most people are actually socially retarded on these spaces
they can't actually tell and they get you know socially engineered not me so that's something
also be keep in mind is that a lot of the seemingly most nice people um may actually be trying to you
know slit your throat behind the scenes um i'm not suggesting
that like any specific persons are but like some people on the list that i came out you know that
after that they're like oh he's such a nice guy well guess what you can be as outwardly nice
person and you know you can also be like a serial pump and dumper they're not mutually exclusive
in fact it happens more often than not
they're like put that together all right i'm done what do you is that good i agree man uh
niceness is a red flag is that good you fucker you can leave whenever the hell you want i appreciate
you i just figured if you could pop in because i was talking about your list that's oh god yeah
yeah well scody can do my bidding on my behalf now he's my amazing that's my co-host
that's your quant yeah that's a good quant he is a good quant yeah i think i should arm wrestle
for curio spot though i want to arm wrestle curio for his i don't know if you want to arm wrestle
cure i actually do i actually do i'm very confident. I don't know, man. Golden, given the opportunity to amend the lick, would you add me to it?
No, you're fine, Frankie.
Just stop getting retweeted by that Hanok guy.
Not the good one?
You wouldn't add me to the good one?
Not until you do what I just said.
Wait, what did I do?
What did Hanok do wrong?
Everything.
Look at his mouth.
He's done everything wrong.
Wait a second.
We're not going to talk about cosmetics or anything like that.
That's not necessary, Scotty.
No, it's not.
He's always been supportive to me, man.
He's always been, you know, he's always looked out for me and been supportive to me.
So, I don't know.
He was nice to me as well in person for sure.
He might have made a few calls that didn't pan out,
but I don't think he's like a malicious person.
I don't know.
All right.
I'll say one last thing.
I got to go.
Asking about Harry Potter,
Pac-Man from 2023 that he worked with Doc Holliday.
I'll tell him ahead.
Coco, the board ape.
Who else forgot there?
Value and time.
Bullish trader, hold on, that Steki bored ape guy, ask him about that next time you actually talk to him and then get back to me
again. You actually just reinforce the principle I just said about people who are nice to you,
nice to you, either in person or by phone, and they're actually some of the worst offenders.
whether they're in person or by phone, and they're actually some of the worst offenders.
Anyway, thank you for that perfect exemplar that you just painted for everyone in this
entire space.
Have a good night, and don't play yourself.
Night, Gold.
You're welcome.
You got me thinking hard.
You know what's actually weird?
You're just reminding me of something.
He just reminded me of something.
This has nothing to do with Hennock. Uh, I've always wondered, I told this to Melina for sure in
person and a few other people, I'll be at events sometimes. I swear to God, I'm like,
why is this person being so fucking nice to me? I do not understand. We've never met, uh, in person,
um, online. They may know of me maybe, but they don't even really engage with me.
They just, you know, I just know we know of each other. And then I swear like seven out of the
nine times it just happened. Uh, something weird comes out or, or I find out something and I'm
like, wait, do they think I was going to gonna say something because my show's web 3 exposed like I'm not the fucking police my I'm not a cop you know uh so I'm like putting two I'm like no there's
no way there's no way but some of you guys ain't fucking slick some of you guys are not fucking
slick man like that scody dude he's very nice don't listen to anything oh he's still here um
no I'm just kidding hey whatades, what's up, bro?
You came to the stage.
Did you want to add anything?
That's what I thought, Hades.
I just wanted to say, I talked to Sam Bankman-Fried twice, and he was incredibly nice.
Just remember that next time you run into a nice person.
Say, yep. nice person. Yep.
Fair enough.
Yep.
So how do you tell when somebody's being fucking fake nice?
Because most of the people here have been nice.
In my opinion, I don't know how y'all do it.
You have to meet in person.
I'm sorry.
You have to fucking meet in person or spend over 10 hours a day on fucking FaceTime with them.
Because you cannot just do it by listening
to spaces and just because they're really nice and they give away money and they're fucking nice
looking and they seem to have life together. I'm sorry. That's not a justifier. That's not an
indicator of somebody being decent. That's, you know, I don't know. I don't know how else to say
that. I don't know what else. I'm just saying it's been nice to me. You know, I'm considered
what you guys call a fucking brokey. So I don't get to go to events. You know what else. I'm just saying it's been nice to me. You know, I'm consider what you guys call a fucking brokey.
So I don't get to go to events.
You know what I mean?
So I just.
That's actually a fair enough point.
You're right.
That is hard to when you can't go to events.
All right.
I can help out on this.
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm going to sound like I'm joking, but this is this is actually an ironic advice.
For one, look for consistency in what they say
you have to pay attention to this and for some people this comes easily it's difficult
like some people are wired for this don't i don't know how else to explain it other people are not
anyone can do it but if you're not naturally wired for it, you have to pay attention to the person. And what you're looking for is basically inconsistencies in what they say. That's one of
the easiest ways to detect a liar is because liars aren't often good liars. They're just liars and
they forget details. And if you're paying more attention than they are to the lie you can catch them in a lot of lies um read some books on psychopathy find like common behavioral traits in sociopaths and
psychopaths because a lot of these people have overlapping traits if you see them display those
that's a big red flag um get take a shot it's the geeks mops and psychopaths article oh man
that's kind of ironic because i think of myself as a psychopath so i mean i i don't know how to take that you got to
get it out of your part of the problem that people have with psychopaths and sociopaths is it's to
them it's you know it's it's patrick bateman and that's not all psychopaths or sociopaths right
like in fact it's it's a small subset of psychopaths and
sociopaths that are running around killing people it it's just this this particular set
of personality traits that qualifies or disqualifies a person as one it's well i mean
i got all the traits of a serial killer but i'm not a fucking serial killer dude there's a guy
named i can't remember the doctor's name i'll look it up in a second this is a true story there's a guy he's a he's he's a phd he's a doctor he's a research
doctor and his specialty was psychopaths specifically the brain structures of psychopaths
so he'd spent his career researching brain structures and psychopaths so and he could say
oh you know this particular part of the brain is overdeveloped, this part's underdeveloped, you know, and there's known,
there's known basically neurological clusters that indicate a prevalence of psychopathy.
And so he's in the lab one day and there's a stack of, what was the next one? It was MRIs.
And he comes across this slide and he looks at it and he asks the tech that
he's working with he's like whose slide is this because it's not labeled and he's like i don't
know and he goes well we need to find this guy he's like this is this this guy's a psychopath
no question so they start digging they have like a reference number on the fucking mri
it was the doctor it was his own because they had used his brain to do a calibration for the machine.
And then...
You know, I heard that before.
There's a documentary on it.
It's absolutely fascinating.
You should watch it.
It's like 30 minutes, absolutely worth watching.
And...
Yo, you ever been to the Muter Museum?
Wait, hold on, let me finish this up.
So he goes back to all the people in his life.
This is a guy who studied psychopathy as his career and was asking like his wife, his friends, colleagues.
And he tells me, it's like, hey, you know, it's weird.
I was just running a test.
And he said no one was surprised.
Everyone's like, oh, yeah, we knew you had psychopathic.
Like, like, and.
Well, see, I work in the health care system.
I'm what they call a CNA, which I'm at the bottom of the of the barrel right so i was working with a nurse once and she was like most doctors
got to be psychopaths and she explained to it because they you know how they cut people open
and all that like normal people can't do that like i'm a nurse i can deal with blood and wounds but i
can't even do that and that's the first person that ever suggested that to me other than you
and that was actually ironic and it brought up that memory i can see that like like you would
need it you would need a degree of emotional detachment to be able to do that to another
person that yeah i could see that being a common trait in psychopaths anyways but anyways this
these are the things that you just you want to look for it's not 100 it's just better than nothing
um yeah and also kindness kindness is a massive red flag don't fucking hang out anybody who's
nice that's why i like profits what the fuck no one who's nice i'm nice but i don't have any friends you know
what i mean i help people where i can you know what i mean but i i have no circle dude except
for like people i've talked to a little bit on here but i mean that it's not that it's like
you have to it's it goes into the whole thing it's it it's you're looking for what you need to look for is is are
they being kind to manipulate and also don't look at just the way they're doing how they're treating
you how they treat others as well like it doesn't need to be directed at you to be an indicator of
someone who's see in real life i can pick up on that because of body language i don't know how to
explain it other than body language how they how they move when they talk it's easier definitely understand that but yeah
on here it's difficult
yeah have you uh there's actually uh an interesting museum in philadelphia it's called the muter
museum and they have like it's like a museum of like natural oddities it's like they have like
you know conjoined twins and you know like skeletons from conjoined twins and like you know like um all that kind of crazy shit and they did
have like a brain of like a serial killer like in a jar and it was kind of crazy we weren't allowed
to take pictures of it um because like to respect for like you know the people who like donated
there yeah they got something similar in ohio called cos COSI I kind of grew up there when I was younger
and that was actually very very similar
to what you just described
interesting yeah it was crazy at this museum too
they had a poisonous
plants garden
there were signs and it was like if you ingest
these plants you will die
don't fucking eat these plants it's kind of crazy
James Fallon.
That's the doctor's name. So, James
and then F-A-L-L-O-N.
But, like, I could not possibly
recognize it. It's one of maybe ten documentaries
that I recommend to absolutely everyone.
Like, it's an absolutely fascinating documentary.
It's not very long.
That works out because that's pretty much all I watched.
So, hell yeah.
And he was a good guy like
like this is another thing that's you have to get people like to try to understand this better like
just because someone has sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies doesn't necessarily
make them a bad person everyone said yes you're clearly a psychopath because you do high-risk
shit you get people in higher situations that they wouldn't normally put themselves in
yeah these are the psychopath trick but no one thought he was a bad dude.
Like everyone's like, no, you're a good guy.
Like you clearly go out of your way to help people.
But we sort of have this Hollywood one-dimensional version of a psycho.
And that's partly what hurts the general public is not understanding that these traits don't exist in total in all people or in all
psychos and all sociopaths. Sometimes they can have just a part of the pie, you know, or, or the,
or the, the, the pie can be, you know, you know, resized or sized differently. And, and some people
just don't have the murderous instinct, you know, they have all the other stuff, but they just don't
have that. So, you know, they'll take all your money from you, but they would never, they would never hurt you, like physically hurt you.
And it's,
it's,
you have to sort of become,
you have to get used to these notions to be able to spot it more easily than other people.
Snow is a psychopath.
Like that actress,
a hundred percent.
That's a psycho.
She gave a whole interview and didn't blink once.
Like that's the most psycho shit I've seen in a long time Melina
are you there?
hello
how's your day been?
not bad
this list kind of freaked me out
but this whole conversation really didn't happen.
I'm like, crazy. No, I'm good though. You know, Habibi, are you ready for Dubai?
I'm ready. Are you ready?
I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm learning a few words.
Everyone's asking me in the DMs, what we wearing what are we wearing can we show skin
i'm like i don't know we gotta i don't know what we gotta do um but uh no i'm excited i don't know
i'm gonna change the vibes here
how are you profits no i mean i let you form the whole space i was wondering if you had any
thoughts or anything about the timeline today.
That's all.
No worries at all.
My timeline's crazy.
I mean, people on Bitcoin getting rugged, you know.
If it wasn't art on Bitcoin, it's the pump on Bitcoin.
I don't know.
It's like not looking good for Bitcoin right now other than micro strategy.
Well, actually, I think it's called strategy now.
But Michael Saylor keeps buying Bitcoin at like the worst time, I feel like.
I bought Bitcoin under 80K last week and Michael just decided to buy more today.
So anyway, that was that was interesting.
Yeah, timeline's weird.
Timeline's weird.
I don't know.
Everyone needs to go touch some grass or something.
Yeah, tell him.
You tell him.
Yo, so how many people you think uh are on tiktok on this app
on tiktok like the ones who are on this app who go to tiktok or
yeah i'm hoping not a lot of people i think like two people i'm one of them all right good i'm
starting my tiktok arc and yeah you'll see the minute you mentioned crypto, the XRP army attacks. And then after them,
it's every other 60 year old man who's like, I know crypto. So you'll have fun there. You know,
we'll, we'll talk about TikTok when you, when you have fun there. Um, I have a blast when I'm on
TikTok. Oh yeah. I'm a totally, I'm on TikTok. Oh, yeah.
Totally different people.
They're like, what's a PFP?
So you'll have fun there.
You'll see.
Holy shit.
I'm not even joking.
I wish I was.
I'm not.
I'm really not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wish I was joking too.
But no, I'm really starting my TikTok art.
I pinned it up to the top.
So go ahead and you guys follow my TikTok. This show shouldn shouldn't have went as long today i can't believe it did but i'm not mad it did because we got great insight from frankie one six cody golden thank
you everybody go ahead and follow everybody on the stage even the farmers you know fucking farmers
but hey fucking hey get get him, throw him a
follow. Fadi, what's up? I was just telling everybody to go follow me on TikTok so they
could watch our live later. I know I'm late. I know I told you 845 and it's 849. How you doing
today? Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. I'm doing great. yeah i know i figured i was like she's still spacing you thought i was gonna let you hang in again i get it you came to check yeah
because guys monday night i'm gonna tell them wait last monday night was it i don't know a few nights
ago uh we planned a twitter space and i called shanice before you mean a tiktok oh my bad my bad a tiktok we were
gonna go live on tiktok and uh she was like yeah give me an hour i was like no you seem
you seem a little comfortable right now give me 30 minutes let's do 30 minutes i compromised
you know we compromised we decided on 30 minutes. I didn't go to the gym
because I was like, hey, we're going to stream. We're starting a little series. I'm like, okay,
cool. Stay at home. Then the time comes, Shanice is nowhere to be found. Absolutely nowhere to be
found. I'm like, either she's outside or she's asleep.
I have no idea.
No, man.
We sleep and pray on the weekends.
But listen, go ahead and shoot Fadi a follow.
Maybe she'll start coming to the show more often.
Coke, you can just go ahead and keep your ass right there because I'm ending the show.
But, yo, make sure you guys set reminders for tomorrow, 630.
We are back again again we have a few
special guests if you're going to be in dubai at the end of the month i'm throwing an event may 1st
pull the fuck up it's going to be litty any kols or influencers definitely jump in my dms lots of
opportunities uh but yeah yeah yeah get to get. Get to the TikTok.
Get to TikTok.
Profits over wages.
It's time to raid.
I want to go be made fun of by the influencers over there.
I want them to tell me I don't know shit about fuck.
So go ahead and pull up on me on TikTok because it's different.
It's going to be a whole, I already know it's about to be some new energy.
So yeah, pull up, pull up.
I'm going to play this song for them.
They're not going to know it.
But it's all right.
It's all right.
It's all right.
Coke, stick that thumb on your ass.
Have a good night.
Good night, everybody.
Love you all.
All right, Coke, what do you fucking want, dog?
What the fuck do you want?
Make it good.
Fuck out of here.
Talk about shit that I'm like, nah, man.
I just want to say what's up.
I missed the space.
I was in the gym.
You over here talking about Dubai and TikTok and all this other shit.
But no, I just came to say what's up. Like, they was great.
Don't let her miss, let you miss the gym don't let her never never ever in life that's why i'm not here never
these gains these gains be gaining 365 squat now 365 bye mashallah all right much love thank you Thank you! Bye bye!
