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Tonight we are featuring Draconian Era and Graham Ryder, the legend himself.
So we're super excited about tonight's space.
We're going to learn about what Graham Ryder's been doing.
We're also going to learn about Draconian Era and the things that they've been building in the Web3 world and gaming world.
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We'll introduce our call team and our guests for tonight, starting with the bacon sandwich.
What is up boys and girls?
It was quite funny in the intro there.
We could hear you running,
to go from one device to the other. It was very entertaining.
But now looking forward to tonight.
We've got two people that we know.
You know, we've got friends in the building.
I've known Graham Ryder for a bit. I've seen them around.
He's in all the best communities and none of the shit ones.
And Aetherfall Interactive, which is kind of like the new brand around the games that Krakonian is building out.
And again, we spoke to Stricone in a few times, and it's probably about time that we, you know,
featured in for a longer space.
And I want to know about this IP token.
I keep, uh, I keep seeing it everywhere.
All the cool communities are utilising IP tokens, so I know all about it.
I've done it quite a few times, but you know how we do things.
You know, we like to hear it from the horse's mouth.
So, uh, we've definitely been excited about that.
And, uh, yeah, I thought you'd be able to hear me coming down the stairs.
when you've got wide spectrum on an iPhone you can basically hear people breathing five houses down in the street
it's crazy but yeah i ran up the stairs because uh i came downstairs because my my dog i heard my dog
waking up and i thought it's going to start yelping so i quote ran down the stairs and i realized
i forgot something so i had to fly up and back down again at lymphid christie speed and nearly
broke my ankle and i nearly fell up the stairs and down so i was quite impressed with myself actually
but uh we could we could we could hear you nearly falling up the stairs and nearly falling down
the stairs that's really quite comical you know when you think that you've still got that
athleticism and then you realize that you've uh you've been out the game too long and you just
haven't got that speed and agility that you used to have and you just don't want to admit it yet so
yeah i'm just going to get old mate we're getting old mate you know what i mean getting any younger
yeah that's it you know it's them dad's sports days that the
that like you realize every year that you're slipping,
you know, you start off by having a reputation for winning
and then you lose one and that's it, it's game over them.
I'll take, I'll take second place.
I'll take second place behind the personal trainer,
the guy that's an ex-copper.
I, you know, I'll quite happily come second to that guy.
But, you know, as someone who's been smoking for, I don't know,
over 20 years, I'll still hold my own,
Let's go, but yeah, no, glad I was able to provide a bit of entertainment
to start the space there, but no, anyway, let's introduce the rest of the legends in the space
tonight, so I'm not sure who will be jumping up to talk about the IP token with Graham, if anyone,
if anyone does want to come up and talk about it or talk about your utilising it, it would be
awesome for you to do so.
Since some absolute legends in the audience already, we've got UkiBurz down there, Stone Sloths,
We got shorty down there as well.
We got Sam back in the building.
We got Bleeding Dodger Blue as well.
We have Gunner as well, which means we have Bella.
So shout out to you guys as well.
And I can also see Peace down there as well.
And meme for trees, aka James, in the building as well.
With that being said, we also have Graham Ryder on stage.
Graham, thank you so much for joining us.
Come off the back of a brilliant space last night with the sloths and the lunar dolls and the monkeys and the Solana heroes.
Really, really good space.
you know, there's not that many spaces out there that you'd say are really quality.
So in a way, I'm still coming down from that a little bit.
There's really, really good.
I got to enjoy some of that.
I had to leave early because our buddy Zol was doing the space.
So I had to go support him.
He's just put on a massive event down in Miami along with Art Basil.
Tricky down there in the audience, he was doing like a house share thing.
And he was cooking for people.
But yeah, so I had to go, I had to leave it a little bit, a little bit early.
But I got in, I got into the Christmas game, which I'm quite looking forward to seeing if I can win myself some cool shit.
But the thing is, I've only got two entries.
I've got two stone sloths.
And I don't think I've got any of the others.
If I did, maybe it's in another wallet.
But yeah, unfortunately, I can only get two tickets.
Hopefully that's enough to win me something cool.
There's some cool prizes out there.
It's all relative though, isn't it? Whether you have
100 or whether you have two, it still costs you
the same to send two as it does to send
you're going to come back with two prizes and whoever
puts 100 in, they're going to come back with 100 prizes, but they
would have put in 100 times 0.01. So, you know,
wherever happens, you're going to come back with two, same
amount of prizes per slough. So, uh,
You just never know, you never know. It takes one entry, doesn't it, to win a sloth.
Yeah, when I saw that the, uh, the rewards pool was, uh, weighted towards, uh, towards those
sloths, that, that tickled my fancy. Yeah, that's why I bought, bought tickets because I
thought there was a better chance of be getting like a, I don't know, like a Christmas hat or like a
Santa jacket or, or something like that for, for, for, for my dude. So, uh,
Yeah, but yeah, welcome, welcome, Graham.
It's nice to finally, finally meet you.
We've kind of crossed paths like loads,
but we've never actually had the chance to speak.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've always, you know, I'm not a great general chat person, so I'm probably, you know, I don't say hello to many people, but, you know, I'm always watching everything.
So I know, I know everything that's going on and, you and me, you and me cross paths on X and in the, you know, when there's announcements and stuff like that, there's no reason.
You could, you know, you can sometimes spend your days in, you know,
in the discords and on X and you end up blowing yourself out. So I try and have quality rather than
quantity and I'm always there when people need me. So, you know, the past three weeks, I've kept
a very low key. We've gone into that weird zone where everyone was getting a little bit greedy.
Everyone's thinking about all these coins, tokens going up and up and up.
you know, time to just switch back. And when it comes to January, January, February,
it'll probably be the same. But I'm always there when you need me. And as far as I'm concerned,
that's all that matters. There's the old saying in it, like the old friends, you,
you don't need to see them every single day, but they're always there when you need them. So,
you know, if Sid needs me or, uh,
or lunar or salty sharks,
Same as you guys, you know.
Yeah, I think that's kind of where you're coming from as a builder is you're coming from the, from the perspective almost of a community member.
You know, you've joined all these awesome communities and seen all the cool stuff going on.
And, you know, you want to be, you want to be a part of that.
So I want to know like a little bit more about your journey.
Like, you know, when you first sort of, you know, crypto piqued your interest and you started sort of finding community.
What was that like? What was that experience like?
Well, I mean, it started August 2021.
I got some sympathy for the devils.
You know, they were going up and up.
We went into the ball run of 2021.
And I thought, well, this is going to be amazing.
This is going to be, you know, the best thing I've ever done.
And then it goes downhill.
And we go into the bear market.
And a lot of them just went quiet.
for months and months and months and months and it was horrible and it was the worst come down
feeling I've ever had the following year it was a lot of free mints there was a lot of
communities that you think well I'm going to get involved with I took every word of the founder
on his way you know we're going to build the game we're going to build a metaverse we're going to
do this we're going to do that
Got completely suckered in, bought hundreds of NFTs from lots of projects.
And then I didn't even know the signs.
You know, when the founders had disappeared, but the community manager was keeping it going for two, three months.
And you're believing everything.
Oh, let me ask the founders, you know, what's going on.
believed everything and then one by one they all disappeared for lots of reasons they all come up with excuses
you know my laptop got hacked and my wallet got hacked and uh i lost my seed phrase and you know
run out of money all this thing and that was the whole of 2022 basically uh complete lost year um
And then you get into 2023 and you start to, that's when you get the real builders.
And you had the salty sharks starting and you had the crypto cave clubs and you had the
That's when it all started to happen.
And they were, a lot of them were run by people who had been rugged, run by people who had
been scammed, who'd lost their money in 2022.
And so they were the ones who were saying, well, hold on, you know, my name's killer.
I'm not going to rug you.
I'm taking over this community and we're going to make it a real success.
And that's when I started to get back into the love of what was going on.
And that was when I started to think, I'm not investing one penny my money now unless I know the founder and I know what they're doing.
And, you know, I hear them on a space.
And that's when it all started to be successful.
Then you had collab center who had been building a little bit, but they started coming into their own.
That's when I found Hound 4 and I found Octopeeps and all these others.
And then we get into the 2024.
You know, and that was a hard year.
But then we get into 2024 and things are looking a little bit up.
But then we move into the value added.
We move into the reason why NFT projects exist.
And that's where I'm very, very bullish on what a lot of these have been doing
because they've learned from that journey.
And they're now thinking, we need to add value.
And it's all about that adding value.
And yeah, here we are now.
And apart from one Hedera project, who I really thought would never rug local lizards,
never thought they would.
Um, touchwood. I haven't, I haven't been rugged in year and a half. So, you know, I, I, I now choose
quality over quantity. I choose wisely. And then I spend all my time supporting and promoting them,
uh, which is where the IP code can come, come about really. But, um, yeah, I mean, some terrific
projects and some great people out there. And I, and I ignore the key really is ignore everyone else.
someone has to prove to me that they are i know it sounds a bit bullshit but somebody has really
got to prove to me that they're worthy of my time and effort they've got to be legit yeah they've
you know i i've had people dm saying oh yeah i'd love to get to know you our projects this and
that and i said well tell me when you got your next base and i'll come and have a talk with you
because unless i speak to them now i will not
go anywhere near them. And I'll probably miss a few, miss a few on the way, but I'm,
I'm comfortable with that.
Yeah, I mean, the idea is you want to pick the winners, right?
And you want to see him succeed.
And, you know, you are such a great ambassador for so many brands.
You know, I've seen it, and I'm sure other people have seen it as well.
You know, you are a great ambassador for these projects.
You know, you're doing what we're trying to do and pointing the finger at all the great projects in the space.
And how does that tie into IP token?
I think the only thing I'd say about me is I am a holder investor.
I have no vested interest apart from, you know, yes, I have sloths and yes, I want
them to do well because I want an increased rev share over time.
You know, I want sorty sharks to do well because I'll get a passive income that will make
Of course, that's the case.
But I promote projects who I'm not really heavily invested in.
I want the honest ones to do well and I have no vested interest in doing it.
I don't get paid for anything I do.
I don't charge anyone for anything I do.
I don't ask anyone for anything I do.
I just do it because I think it's the right thing to do.
I mean, it's a bit like us.
I mean, we've been doing this for years.
No pay, occasional, you know, paid sponsorships.
But yeah, I mean, it's great, mate.
You are, I think you're, you know, you're an unsung hero in the space.
You know, you're also connecting people to good projects.
You know, people, someone that follows you, you know,
will start to find the great projects in the space.
And it's because of the way you've positioned yourself, you know,
in this space and surrounding yourself with great people.
I think that shows testament to your character because people want to work with you.
I've seen a lot of people utilising the IP token.
So I want to know more about the IP token.
So there's a few projects out there who...
who don't want to take many risks, haven't got much utility, and are slightly afraid that if they decide to do something, will they get a backlash of their community?
You know, and there's also projects out there who have got an absolute tremendous amount of utility, who've got a great community.
I was sitting there one day and I thought, well, what can what can we do to take that fear away?
But also what can we do to bring everybody together without any vested interest?
Because, you know, Solana Heroes have a villain token and Lunadoles have LDZ token.
Well, if Solana Heroes were going to go to Sloss, say, and say, you know, I really want to implement my villain token, would the Sloss really do it?
Well, probably not because why would they?
And the Salana heroes would come across as, well, we're trying to promote our own token.
So I sat there one night and I thought, well, if I created it.
And also you've got some polygon, some Solana, it doesn't really fit.
So I thought to myself, well, what if I just start a token and that token is for everybody?
And by owning that token, those projects can do whatever they want with it.
They've got the IP rights by owning it.
So then I thought, well, let's just do it. So I just did it and I sort of thought about it after. But it was to prove that you can take some chances in life. It was quite scary, but you think, will it work? Will it fail? Let's just do it. And if it fails, we'll do something else. If it works, it could be the best thing ever. So I just did it. And I
And then I told everyone.
And that was really the, there was no real thought behind it, apart from this one token could bring anyone, everyone together.
Because they could then cross-collab.
They could use the token a little bit like if you go to a, I think a Star Wars.
And if you go to a market, you got the credits.
Everyone's got the credits.
Everyone can go and swap the credits.
So it's a universal token that everyone can use.
As long as they've got the token, they're in the community themselves.
And then whoever I was going to suggest, you know, community communities, you know,
what's he a collab center?
What's he's pretty much had enough?
And he wants someone to take over the collab center.
So why not community communities?
Anyway, that's a side fault.
I just thought it was a great idea.
If you have the IP token, you can use it however you want.
I can then spend my life helping you because I've given away all my tokens.
I've got three million left.
I've given away 77 million.
So I have no vested interest.
I can now help and come up with ideas about how I can use that token.
And now, Cryptocial Club and Sorty Sharks are on Polygon.
Using the token can now do business with stone sloths and with Solana heroes and with Lunar dolls and then if I bring in some Hedera communities or some some Ethereum, they can all use the IP token and they can all do trade together. So I just did it and it's and that's it. So if you own it.
you can utilize it and you can then network with all these other projects,
which means all the holders get to network around.
And I couldn't see anyone's done it before,
so I thought, well, let's just do it.
So that's the history of the IP token.
Yeah, it's cool, mate. It's cool. So it's available, what have you done? Is it available on all chains or is there some kind of like central hub where it basically just utilizes the IP token only? It doesn't matter what chain that it's on or how does it work?
So I release the IP token. It's a real shame because I released the IP token on Moonshot. I wanted to stay away from Pump Fun, which is a good idea considering they're just banned here in the UK.
but I released it on Moonshot.
Now, when I released it on Moonshot, they were going to provide, when it got past the bonding curve and he got released to Meteora, they were going to provide 20% creator fees for life on that token.
And so I was going to take all of the creative fees that I would ever earn, sweep everybody's flaws and give all the NFTs to all the other projects, utilize an IP token.
And then Moonshot decided to stop it, which really scuppered it because they stopped it.