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What is Cooking? Otherside, MML, AI, and more| Grateful Show #446
Recorded: March 12, 2026 Duration: 2:00:01Space Recording
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'ma take it to the top, yo, I'ma make it hot, baby, hey, man. I'ma push the pussy, the spit, and I'll pop.
Get the pump, squeeze it, my pistol.
I'm sure that I got, I'll be the pipe of Big Tempest.
If I'm 5, 5, 5, I'll be 50 cent, I'll write a little bit,
but I pop the huts.
Tell me, just get their money right, because I got mine.
And I'm around quick playing, niggas, you can't shine.
You gon' be that next chunk, then end up in the trunk.
Had to be hit by the pump.
Is that what you gon' be?
See, nigga? I let you want? Be easy, nigga
I let your ass out
Believe me, nigga
That's one of my best
Gangster
You can find a nigga sitting on the phone
Hit the clutch, hit the gear
Hit the gas and I'm gone
Do what, homie
Be dumb
I'ma let this hit
My bottle pile
I'ma take it to the top
Let's go
Make it hot, baby
I'm down for the action.
You start with mouth to smack.
You hold your strap, mic up back, so crap.
React like a gangster, dialing a gang's flag.
If you get hit and I'm a star to be acting, what happened?
No, no, look who's coming in with the phone.
Oh, 20-inch, I'm sitting on the floor.
Bro, if you stop on the side, you get up.
Yo, I'm no, no.
You know what I'ma say said something really wrong with my brain.
I just don't know if nigga, so I'm down and down with my chain.
G, nigga.
Forget it popping in the hood, cheating it.
Motherfucker was doing away,
them niggas to act like they don't know how to act.
I had to sip it too much, Zach.
I blew them off the map with the Mac.
Thinking it's all rap.
Said ass get clapping.
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yo what's up everybody oh my god I already see so many legends here on stage and in the audience.
Let's fucking go guys. Today is gonna be another banger. We're gonna be talking about MML, building in the other side.
And of course stage1.fun and more and more. So can't wait guys, we have incredible guests here.
It's gonna be a great episode. I hope you're having incredible Thursday wait guys, we have incredible guests here. It's gonna be great episode.
I hope you're having incredible Thursday,
the weather and everything was perfect here.
So yeah, we're gonna have fun guys.
Two more minutes of intro, let's fucking go.
And please, retweet the space, that always helps.
Hit that button, let's go.
You heard it.
Let's go.
Yeah. For those of you that want to know what we're all about, it's like this.
This is 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, and 100% reason to remember the name.
He doesn't need his name up in lights, he just wants to be heard, whether it's the beat of the mic.
He feels so unlike everybody else alone, in spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him, but fuck him, he knows the code.
It's not about the salary, it's all about reality, and mak it's annoyed, make it a story, making sure his click stays up.
That means when he puts it down,
Toc's picking it up. Let's go. to live on from writing backs put it together yourself and a picture connects never asking for someone's help or to get some respect it's only focus on what he wrote his will is beyond
reach and now what all unfolds the skill of a nautista 20 skill 80 fear be 100 clear cause
why you was ill he would have thought he'd be the one that set the west in flames and i heard him
wreck it with the crystal method name of the game came back dropped mega death took him to church I like bleach man why you had the stupidest verses
dude it's the truth now everybody giving them guest spots stocks through the roof I heard
him fucking with that stuff 10% 20% skill 15% concentrated power of will 5% pleasure, 50% pain, 100% reason to remember the name.
Let's go, everybody.
This is Grateful Show 446.
GMGM, everybody.
So excited to be here today.
Already see many legends here.
And I don't know what's going on, but the intro uh jingle or how to code it uh is less and less loud i don't know what's going on
uh i think in a few episodes uh there will be no intro intro music i don't know what's going on
with that but guys excited i've been cooking with mml i built crazy stuff uh you know, I actually improved cinema in Other Side Vibe Maker world.
And yeah, I deleted it after because it was probably too much,
but absolutely love that.
I've been playing with many tools and one of those tools is Stage 1.
So I can't wait to learn more about how that works
because AI and everything is progressing so much
that it's so much easier to build stuff, right?
And with Other Side, it's a beautiful playground where we can actually learn new stuff,
do some crazy shit and have fun.
That's important, right?
Have fun.
One more thing, guys.
I know most of you actually used Magic Eden.
So don't forget to revoke.
Revoke.cash, go there. You can search for Magic Eden. So don't forget to revoke. Revoke.cash, go there. You can search
for Magic Eden. And if you search for that, you can select all and revoke or allowances or how
you call those, because they shut down and you never know what's going to happen with those
contracts. So please, please, please, if you haven't done it, do it. It's important.
haven't done it, do it. It's important. What else we have here? I also want to share a few more
things. One, and I will pin it up here, incredible artist, iDrawAnimation. He tweeted today,
I'm available for commissions, guys. I will pin it up here. So if anyone looking for incredible
dope art, hit him up. He's absolutely incredible. He did animations
for movie
stars also, like me.
No, I'm kidding. He did for me too,
but for Madonna, I think
Gwyneth Paltrow, and so on and so on.
He's such a legend. I will find
a tweet. I will pin it up here.
Incredible artist, and
yeah, he's great. He worked with many
people here on ape chain too so
if anyone is cooking something please hit him up uh and support him it's pinned up there and yeah
guys uh we gotta be talking about building cooking let me rename the space and let me say hi to Six The Pluck and then Haifa. Six, how you doing? How's it going?
Doing good, man. Doing good. How you been, fam? How you been?
I'm doing great. Are you excited about today's episode, man?
For sure. It's always a banger on the grateful show, bro. Yeah, the reason I go going to Vibe coding, bro. I've been coding non-stop. I've been using GPC Codex and Cloud Opus back to back.
Back to back, bro. Non-stop. Non-stop. I have my own agent now. I call the trenches, it's for the trenches.
It's for the trenches, bro. It's good times, it's good size, for real. Love to hear that, man. Many people actually started playing with Vibe Coding and MML
because of the guests we hosted here. I see Tropical down there, another legend with Render Pool.
Guys, I know because of time change in US, everything moved by one hour. So we're gonna go a little shorter today because
render pool starts in like 15 minutes, but we're gonna hop into it right away. I also see Frosty's
another legend with incredible tool. I see Hype with absolutely crazy avatar. I don't know what's
going on. I see Sivu, JB, NGB, Otter, Ape Church, Let's Fucking Go,
Flingers, Vigas, D1,
JDunk, Boo,
ILS,
Fiends, Mo Stone, CM
and many others, guys. Big shout
to you. If you have any questions,
drop them into the comments and also please
retweet the space. That always
helps. We have 13 retweets,
like 25 people here, so we can do a
little bit better please retweet bookmark and let's say hi to Haifa. Haifa welcome here how is it going
GM GM yeah I'm doing really well excited to be here thanks for having me on this morning
uh really excited to dive into everything having I'm having a pretty good day today, just getting into a few things
and just showing someone else through the tool a little bit and some of the stuff.
So yeah, appreciate you having me on. I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, I'm also really excited to learn more about what you've been building, man.
We had a great feedback for actually Tropico's story, how he ended up in the space.
And I would love to ask you too man
like how did you end up in web 3 uh and what's your like origin origin story uh yeah it's kind
of it's not so long so like i didn't actually get into 3d art until i was like 30 years old
um it was literally during covid this i was traveling the world. I was in Tasmania, living and working there as a little potato farmer for a little time.
And then I got, yeah, basically COVID came around. I had kind of like got into some editing and stuff before I left for my travels.
And I bought myself as like an investment for the future for when I came home eventually.
I bought myself like a really good laptop, like a proper, you know, almost like an investment for the future for when I came home eventually I bought myself like a really good laptop like a proper you know almost like an alienware type thing uh and I always had
my I was like yes if I if I ever need to go home I've always got that waiting for me I can dive
into that new thing and then yeah COVID kind of forced me home got me into 3D uh and I eventually
got into working with some bigger music artists and I've done a couple of world tours and a bunch of other kind of things.
All kinds of, you know, any kind of 3D work I could get my hands on, to be honest.
Then I got hired by, I made a few animations that got some eyes on me and I got picked up by a Web3 company, a Web3 studio for about a year.
Built there, but I was kind of disappointed at the end of it as soon as we finished the project i was there for they kind of just got
rid of me if you know i mean but it's like there was just redundancy you know it's like the project's
finished all right see you bye and i was like oh okay i don't have it yeah it's like oh it was like
oh sad so uh then i was like okay so I was just looking for a reason to drop something myself
because I'd had a really good fun designing that collection
and how that all worked and just building out the story and stuff
that I really just wanted to have something to call my own.
And I was waiting for, I think I was just,
I was building another one out and then Ape Chain started popping off
and I thought, oh, this is, you know, it was like the first out and then Ape Chain started popping off. And I thought, oh, this is the first few weeks of Ape Chain.
And I think I was just wanting to get in on the fun.
It was super fun back then.
There was loads of stuff popping off.
So Flingers kind of just popped into my head.
I thought it was a really good narrative.
I was surprised no one's done apes flinging shit before to be honest
it's like a perfect little narrative
it's hilarious
but yeah so that's pretty much what got me to there
so now I'm here with my
about
what now six years of experience
in pretty much every day of Blender
and various other 3D
I think I use almost 20 different 3D softwares
in my workflow at the moment.
So it's, you know, I've got a quite expansive understanding of all these different tools.
So now when it comes to making tooling for other things, it's going quite smooth, to be honest.
I know what I want from something.
So it's been, I mean, this stage one has been, that's a single week build.
I mean, this stage one has been, that's a single week build.
That's a seven day build.
I came up with it at the render pool last week,
and it went live on the render pool the same day, the Tuesday this week.
So, yeah, it was pretty amazing what you can,
I think it's actually maybe even one of the best examples
of what you can do with the right experience, the right intention,
and the right kind of vision with these AI tools like you can go so fast and build something really comprehensive
um there's a lot of stuff that you won't even know is built in there right now uh you know um
that that is in the background that helps for community building and stuff like that so anyway
that's kind of my story uh i've done loads of different stuff in the past. I've been a waiter, a chef.
I think the chef helps a lot as well, right?
Like, you've got to know how to cook if you're going to cook.
Yeah.
But, I mean, I don't know if you see that.
You probably need to refresh the app,
but the name of the space is What is Cooking, right?
Because I knew you were a chef,
and when you said that you were farming potatoes,
or I don't know, you so you were you started with potatoes and and switch into the airdrops
which is great uh great experience um also i see tropical i see cinema i see frosties of course
hi-fi here on stage damn we have so many legends here in the audience too um i i have an intro music for everyone here today
guys uh let me quickly play it yeah only mf first above 30 knows what i'm talking about right the
rest is like what the fuck is that?
Okay, okay, it's A-team.
You know, it's A-team.
That means that we are all A-team, guys.
But if you don't know what this song is about,
oh my God, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
You need to visit a museum of cinematography
or some shit like that because it's absolutely legendary.
And, you know, I got a lot of inspiration from movies
for what I want to build in the other side.
I start with Dino Park that I want to build there.
I brought, if you spawn into the Vibe Maker world,
you can see a shark there from movie Jaws.
You know, it's going to be kind of terrifying.
Big shout out to Tropical and also big
shout out to Cinema who helped me with that
and I think Vitemaker World will
turn into like a horror movie
oh shit NGB
is listening they will ban me
sorry guys but it's so much fun
to cook with MML
and with all those tools
I know Frosty's he also built
a tool I will also pin it up here.
Guys, definitely, I think the way to learn is to try all those tools and go step by step and
check what you can build with that. Because even me, I can do stuff and I can publish it and bring
it to the other side, which is absolutely crazy, right uh ngb actually dme like zero chance that
you will bring any objects into the other side right zero chance there was a polymarket but
i did it you know i did it so even even i can do it guys if you have any questions drop them
into the comments uh if you also built something please please share it with us so we can pin it up or we can mention it here.
And one more thing from my side.
I'm bullish about other side and these virtual worlds
because social media are not social media anymore.
And I wrote a post past week about it.
And today, or when was it?
Yeah, yesterday, Gary Vee actually tweeted about it,
that social media switch into the interest media, right?
Because you don't see,
that's the crazy part about Twitter,
Instagram and everything.
You don't see people you follow on your timeline, right?
You see random people.
I don't know what's going on there.
And it's changed a lot.
It changed a lot.
And other side and these virtual worlds
are great places actually to hang out,
to have fun, to enjoy, to learn,
to do whatever you want, right?
And having more builders there,
I think that's the alpha
because everyone can build their own experience,
their own idea, their own vision.
And that's really beautiful.
And I see so many builders here in the audience.
I know you guys have been cooking a lot and that's really nice to see.
Haifa, let's get into what you have been building. Stage1.fun. Let's start with the name.
What does it mean? I know Pump.fun. Is it like pump.fun for 3D objects?
I mean, kind of, really. It's kind of that for MML, right?
The name, honestly, I was just like, I needed a name. I had it called MML Director in the beginning,
but that was just like a starting name, and I was like, no, I need something that pops.
And then I was just getting AI to spit loads.
I must have spat like 150 random names.
And eventually it came with one that was like Take One.
And then it had another one that was called Stage Hand.
And I was like, wait, Stage One feels way better.
So it's like the starting place because there's a lot of learning tools involved inside there.
It's also a starting place because there's a lot of learning tools and involved inside there It's it's also a stage right it's a stage to
That's kind of what it's acting as a stage to build your little thing
And it just kind of rolls off the tongue stage one dot fun. Yeah, I was like, oh nice and luckily that domain was available so
A few things synchronized in there that just kind of worked into the name.
A few things synchronized in there is that just kind of worked into the name. Yeah
Yeah.
Loved it.
Loved it, man.
I played with the platform a bit, but for people who never heard about it,
could you give us a short overview?
When did the idea actually, where did the idea come from?
And what's the overall goal with the platform?
Because of Tropical, I spent some time in blender and
it's really cool to see that you can easily bring 3d objects into the playground right but uh yeah
uh tell us more man yeah so um it's really just something that's been no like it's hard to explain
so like when you work with like ai and these kind of tools, they're amazing.
They're fun.
It's cool to be able to do stuff with natural language.
But that's also very slow input, right? There's a slow bandwidth between what you can think and what you can achieve with that AI.
You have to think about how you translate into those words.
You have to then word it correctly, make sure it understands those words correctly,
and then, you know, sometimes you need to go back and forth
a bunch of times before it gets the right stuff.
So, and this is how games originally were, right?
Like, the first games were all text-based.
You would type in what you want to do,
and it will type back to you.
But now you have a controller where you can just almost like,
almost like be, it's way more telepathic or whatever.
You can just think and move instinctively, right?
You can move your character around.
And that's kind of what Blender does for coding as well.
Blender is a visual tool for coding. It's a way more interactive and lower bandwidth input by just being able to do stuff visually
rather than have to think about it and translate it into words.
And this is kind of where I'm trying to bring this tool,
where I think this tool fits greatly into these workflows of MML.
Honestly, it's been a lot of times I've seen people doing the MML
You know, a lot of times I've seen people doing the MML or talking about the MML stuff they've been building.
or talking about the MML stuff they've been building.
There's just a little bit of a slowness for me.
Like, I like to work fast.
I would like to generate an object with the AI, you know, block out or whatever.
And then there's always parts that are out of place or rotated the wrong way and stuff.
And instead of asking it to do it, to fix those things,
which can take like another three or four different times of telling it what
pieces you want it to move,
that you can,
I just want a way where I can visually just quickly rotate it and then,
and then everything's all kind of working.
That was how the idea started.
But then just as I was exploring,
just making a simple kind of,
it started just as an import thing to blender. It was like, oh making a simple kind of, it started just as an
import thing to Blender. I was like, oh, maybe you can just import it to Blender, move the things
around, and then export it. And then I just thought, oh, maybe I can just do this on the web.
And then, oh, maybe I can add this. Oh, maybe I can. And then I've kind of just been mind blown
about the amount of features I can build in. So right now, stage1.fun, you could think of it as
basically a Blender that's focused around MML.
I will just say quickly, there is a link that I posted down in the comments.
If you want to join that, there is a live build running.
There's going to be a daily live build that's just running all day.
You can just join that, click that link.
You might have to sign in.
It's all free.
It's all through Privy.
And when you sign in, you can just start editing and throwing things around
and there's up to 20 people can be in there at one time
so feel free to join that
I'll give you permissions as you join or whatever
but that's also one of the things
so if you do sign in with the free account
you'll be able to launch these
collaborative open worlds yourself
where you can just all 20 people can be working in there,
throwing assets around, building things out.
Now, I'm not going to promise most of these things will be immediately.
You'll be able to drop them into the Vibe world
because the Vibe world does have some limits,
like for object count and stuff like that.
It's limited to about 100 objects, I think, at the moment.
But this is something that's got more purpose than just for the Vibe code world. object count and stuff like that. It's limited to about 100 objects I think at the moment.
But this is something that's got more purpose than just for the Vibe code world. This has
given you the ability to build with your community something bigger for your ODK map or even smaller
builds. Everything here is web deployable as well so you can just copy the MML and build a little web experience around it there's a bunch of stuff there's over a
thousand little assets that are built in right now because I think again it
doesn't make sense for people to be wasting credits on making chairs every
couple days or tables and stuff why not have just a big repository of all these
things where you can just grab them, throw them around? Some of them have got little problems, but there's a little in the assets, there's a little submission where you can submit a fix for it, right?
Because I'm going to generate thousands of these.
I'm trying to generate 100 every day to add to there.
And some of them are going to have small problems.
I just can't fix them.
So I've made a little way that if you see a problem,
you can fix it and submit it.
Sorry, please.
Can I bring those objects into the other side right now?
Because the way how I work right now is I work with Claude.
I actually create the code for MML.
Then I upload it to MML Editor, publish it, go to the other side,
to the MML link, and then put it there. Can I do it with your platform too, so I can build
something there and bring it to the other side right now? So anything, if you go into,
whenever you're in there, there's two modes. You'll see at the top, you're usually in MML mode.
I'm going to probably remove it, so it's only one mode.
But you want to be in freestyle mode.
If you're in freestyle mode, you can do a lot more stuff.
You can build with all the different procedural tools I've got built in for, like, buildings,
where you can really just click buttons and have them add floors and change shape and all this kind of stuff.
buttons and have them add floors and change shape and all this kind of stuff.
And when you press export, which will give you an MML file, which just is a text file
with the code within it, it takes care of a lot of stuff in the background.
So any assets that are not directly transferable to MML will get uploaded as GLBs to my server
and hosted there, and they'll be included in the MML output so basically you can just press export
you can get copy that the code that it gives you at any time there is also an MML output code down
at the bottom of the screen which you can just go in and copy that at any time and you'll be able to
90% of the time you're just going to be able to copy that and put it into the other side
because every single in the asset list there there's a bunch of different kinds of asset so i've added some cc
zero assets which are like pre-game you know actual game assets like trees and stuff like that
but they they're not mml right they're glbs they won't do things like collisions and stuff as as
the mml stuff will but it gives you some extra stuff to build with.
Sorry, I just got over myself a little bit there. No worries, man. I'm checking the statues that you have there, like a Cora Nexus statue, you have a treasure chest.
But what I see from MML, like you cannot create like such a huge detail, right?
Like with a GLB files, is that correct? Or how does it work?
Because I was trying to bring one dinosaur into the life and I couldn't get the details with MML.
Sure. Yeah, I mean, MML is limited itself, right?
So this is, and there is something on this which is kind of bullish as well.
So MML is really limited, right?
It only has a few objects that it can actually use,
like cubes and spheres and a few things like that.
So generally, you're going to be looking at,
if you want to work strictly with MML,
your worlds are going to be a little bit stylized
and kind of blocky.
I think it's really good to have something
like the Asset Browser that I've got there.
It's got, like I say, thousands of MML-ready assets.
They're all pure MML.
You can just copy them, take them into your world at any time.
But these, again, it's limited, but they're stylized.
And they'll give you a good reference of kind of how you can look at building with the MML.
Details, yeah, you're going to be hard to do some higher details
unless you're making actual
3d models in, uh, you know, and making them into GLBs at the moment though. That's only at the
moment. And that's what I want to say is that like, um, you know, even just on the stage one,
uh, one of the guys from improbable was reaching out on, on one of the posts and he said, Hey,
is there anything, you know, would you like us to, you know, anything you think we could,
you know, feature we can add or any of this kind of stuff and it's like wow okay you know there is
definitely a bunch of stuff we can add to support uh even more building and and like yeah like right
now it's it's not the lightest workflow because when you bring in for instance if you bring in
an mml object and it's one thing that's made out of lots of cubes, every single one of those cubes is a cube.
It's a unique cube. It's a single thing.
But there's a workflow in 3D called instancing,
where you don't use a new cube every time.
You just reuse the same cube and change it slightly.
And this is way more optimized.
It's called instancing.
And that's going to be a massive...
If we can get something like that
more supported with MML and stuff,
you'll be able to do even
bigger stuff, way, way
more because it's just so much lighter and optimized
than. So there's still options...
This stuff is all very early
so there's potential for the code itself
to grow as well as for all the tools
and stuff to grow. So I think it's...
What I'm trying to do with this tool is
to give you almost
it's kind of like almost like a future
vision of like what
what MML will be able to do
because you can do
a lot more in this 3D window
than you'll be able to pull into the other side
right now because you can
have thousands of objects in one of these scenes
on the builder. Sorry, in
shot one at the moment.
Anyway, I could ramble about it all day long.
It's just a super fun tool. I will
be doing a lot of little tutorials. There is a
whole learning section in there
with about 40 different
tutorials and 30
challenges to complete which
will help you to learn how to work
in these 3D tools and with MML and all kinds of stuff like that. You can submit your own tutorials
if you like, so that other people can learn. You can do all kinds of stuff. I really want
this to be an open collaborative platform. You know, I see a day where we have 30,000
assets already for MML right there.
Potentially even, you know,
stage one could potentially even be built in to the other side, you know, as a little browser.
You could just maybe even work on stuff as you're in it.
You know, you could work on your little world around you
directly in there or just,
there's loads of possibilities that can happen, you know.
But right now I just want to grow it
partly as a Web 2 thing, because
just web
building in general is, like, quite expansive,
so I'm trying to scale it to different things.
3JS,
which is, like, one of the tools
that it's built on, has been, like,
liking all the posts that we've been making as well, so they
like it. It's pretty cool. So, yeah,
I've been having a great time with it, and I really appreciate
everyone's interest. I just think you should just go in, start throwing stuff around. It's pretty cool. So yeah, I've been having a great time with it, and I really appreciate everyone's interest.
I just think you should just go in and start throwing stuff around.
It's totally free.
There is some AI generation stuff in there,
and there is some...
I've got sideload integrated in there right now,
so if you generate an object in sideload,
you can actually, I believe you can right now,
send it over directly to the Asset Browser of Stage one as well. So try to collaborate with others as well and get
see where we can meet in the middle with all these things.
I will pin up the tweet guys so you can check it out. I think this is really
great to learn and play with these tools because we talked about it last time that if you own Deed,
probably everyone will try to build something there, right?
And these tools, it doesn't have to be for like a finished build,
but for brainstorming and for ideas, it's perfect
because to bring your idea into 3D object, it takes minutes now.
And it's not like days or hours.
The feedback loop is quite quick, right?
So I cheated a little bit because I found a shark GLB
file, and I somehow brought it into the other.
I don't know how I did that, but Claude did it for me.
He found a shark file.
He put it on a base, and I was able to bring it
into the other side.
And it looks really, really dope.
So I can imagine to have more fish there
because I love fishing.
So maybe more like sharks, salmons,
you know, holly boots.
I don't know.
Maybe the whole fishing area.
But you can do it so quickly.
It really took me like 10 minutes
to actually do the whole thing.
So absolutely love it
Could you share with with us something that you build with stage one?
Is there anything that
We can go and and walk around?
Yeah, I mean if you if you want to
Let me see if I can kind of pin something up to the top. Yeah, yeah, okay
So if you join I'm gonna pin up the comment that sent from
shot one down below if you click the link in this it'll bring you to the current uh live world that's
uh the daily build you can pop in there you can see i've honestly right now i've just opened it
i've just threw in one of there's some pre-made scenes in there um and if as soon as you join in
you can just press f and you'll be able to
walk around in first person mode, kind of like just experience the world a little bit that way.
There's also optionality. So once you've built a little thing out, if you actually want to play
test it with the character, there is also a play button and also a go live button. Now play will
let you play within that world with some physics and it's not great at the moment. It needs some refining.
But you'll be able to run around and interact with whatever you've built there as a little character.
It's a flinger just now, of course.
But you can import any of your own MML characters there as well.
And then the go live one is basically the same thing.
But you can invite 20 other people to come and join the world as well with you.
So potentially you could even build a little game there there's scripting involved so you could
easily build a little game and then when you hit go live you can have people come and
play your game basically just an experience and test it right before before even having to go and
deploy it to to to your larger build or whatever it's really like a staging area, a testing area.
The first one. So stage one. And it's fun.
I just did that, man. That's really cool. I press play and I'm running basically in the
environment I built. That's really nice.
Just to give you a bit of perspective, because there's another thing, you know, I've seen a lot of the
stuff that gets built.
It's hard to get the scale right or something sometimes.
So that's why as soon as you load in, there's a little character there for scale reference.
And just being able to run around in that first person's perspective really helps you to kind of get a good feel for your environment and stuff like that.
It's really important.
There is also a little button at the top called Director.
And when you're ready to show off your environment,
you can go and make little animations and export them, little videos of it.
Now, again, some of these things, there might be a few bugs here and there
because some of them I've not fully tested,
but everything's there to play with.
80% should work on mobile as well,
so you can just go on mobile and throw things around and add assets
and make stuff um it's all again i'm working towards getting all fully functional on all
devices and yeah really make something where you can just quickly do some stuff you know boo boo
it's always something i've since i got into blender we were talking about it with you know in these in
groups i was in it's like oh god imagine you could all be in the same Blender file together doing stuff and moving stuff around.
I actually can't believe that I've managed to build something like this.
And it's just the beginning.
I don't expect it to take off crazily, but I think it's something that will be more and more useful just as time goes on.
So yeah, I really appreciate it.
It's giving me the time to talk about it today.
These tools for creating animations, those are incredible. I will be creating a short video
from other side about my Dino Park with 11 labs. I will try to bring some dope voice, you know, and
this is something that was impossible to build a few years ago, maybe a few months ago, maybe.
And now you can build such crazy things, right?
So I really enjoy it.
I love to see in other sites,
to see people building different things like cinema.
He brought there the whole cinema.
NGB, he has his huge statue.
I don't know, it's absolutely crazy.
Guys, go there and check him out.
He's really tall.
And it's so much fun.
So 100% recommend, guys.
Even if you don't have that role to publish actually in the other side,
try these tools and build something there
because I believe it's gonna be a game changer
for the other side and you can test so many things. So I got so much better in just two days to, you
know, to deploy such better models or objects into the other side than when I started. So yeah,
into the other side than when I started. So yeah, I see Alien here, so let me bring Alien
with orange background. Chespi, welcome here, how is it going, man?
Oh my god, he's Alien.
Nah.
Guys, before Chespi gets on stage,
if you have any questions,
you can drop them into the comments.
Also, please retweet the space.
Follow people here on stage.
Follow Haifa.
I'm going through the comments.
I see beautiful selfie from the other side by Sivu.
Absolutely love that.
Incredible avatar by Haip's that's a art piece
there and SkyArk got it right yeah with the A-team guys that's incredible what else we have here so
many GMs love to see that love to see that Chespy can you hear me how you doing man bro I'm doing
great bro you know some alien shit is happening right now bro but oh good man you
know just chilling you know i'm glad that iran stopped the attack to california because he find
out that gavin newson is already doing the job of destroying california so let's fucking go but grateful always great to be here man how you doing my boy
i'm doing awesome man uh really happy to have you all here guys on stage because by the way i'm
i'm refreshing cutterside profile on twitter because there's gonna be update today right
it's thursday 1.3 that's update number. And I'm waiting for that.
I don't know when it's going to happen, but it's going to happen today. And also we have a meet at
the clubhouse. Today, midnight. So midnight. No, it's going to be 11 actually. It's going to be
earlier for me than usually, but check it out. It's always fun. And yeah, Chespi, what you've
been cooking? Share anything with MML?
Anything for the other side that you can share?
I've been creating my library in the back.
I have something built up, something to have fun.
You know, if you know Primates and myself,
we drove a taco truck into the other side, and we were having fun.
So I think we're going to do something similar, you know.
We're going to open a street of vendors, of street vendors or something like that.
I don't know.
We're just going to have some shit, you know, some falafels, some shaw warmest too, you know, so we're going to allow
everybody to have their street food probably soon. Yeah, dude. So I don't know, man, I just want,
we just want to have fun. You know, that's it. You know, I'm very passionate with the shit that
I do. So I love it. You know, I love creating, doing some shit like that, having fun, you know i i love creating doing some like that having fun you know and yeah if the
community the community responds you know like it always responds like and i love it you know
the last thing we created was the the chain the pokemon chain slap where you can put your um
your courtyard slabs into the chain and for aliens only and yeah that's pretty much it bro
but other than that just surprises my boy you know
love it man can't wait uh i'm trying to get wonk here but something wonk and it doesn't connect
uh so i don't know oh wonk here sok, you can unmute and share your alpha with us.
Damn, wonk always share the biggest alpha,
but you really said that about Chespi?
Oh my God.
And Chespi's here.
He could hear that.
Oh my God, it's crazy.
But yeah, wonk, thank you so much. But...
Yeah, Wong, thank you so much. I also saw Amp here and now he's gone.
Yeah, that's what happens with oranges guys. I'm really sorry. It's a ex-Algo. I don't know what's going on. I see Showbiz. He tried to join on stage, but he can't because of the background color.
Wong, thank you so much also for joining so many legends here uh i see also don diablo
laws showbiz cool chick who gma the aspiring nobody and many many others guys love you thank you so much for tuning in and Haifa what you mentioned
that this is just the beginning so what's your goal for for 2026 like you
know where you want to push it pretty much like scaling really just getting
into people's hands getting people using it expanding the tool set there's for
instance like a few things I want to build
in right now. So right now there's little games, and they're kind of mock games. They're
not like full things. So I'm working on right now. There's a whack-a-mole there, an MML
whack-a-mole, and that should be fully playable. So I'm really working on getting all that
stuff refined. Just refining the toolset, adding new generative tools, the procedural
tools. If you don't know what they are, it's like, it's really fun. It's like, if you imagine
you've got like a wall, a brick wall, and you can just drag a slider to make that wall
longer or taller, change the shape of it and the colors and all that kind of stuff, really
simple kind of tools that are super fun to throw around so just expanding all that stuff really just refining it hopefully working uh working into things as as the you know
if the code changes and stuff and that how that ability changes um definitely integrating as uh
as i get event eventually get some uh access to the m stuff. And the other side, you know, making some notifications on there to say,
okay, this is good to go or, like, you know,
just some extra little features and stuff.
But at the moment, it's pretty full.
So right now I just want to focus on expanding the assets there
and getting it into people's hands, just kind of building its presence, you know.
I'll be doing these daily builds every day, which is, I just launch the thing
and just leave it open basically all day,
and people can just come and go and do stuff.
There is a Discord.
I'm posting daily trivia as well.
Just a few, you know, just,
I'm setting it up just as its own thing, right?
I don't want it to be a big hype Web3 product
or anything like that.
I really want it to be a communal thing.
I am applying for some funding for it in Scotland because we have a lot of funding opportunities for good
tools like this. Because as long as I kind of want to keep it free and open, maybe not
open source, but free to use 100%, kind of inspired by Blender. You know, that whole
what Blender in terms of being open and the learning being
open and tons of assets and stuff being open and free, that's changed VFX in general and
I think we need something like that to be able to help stimulate the evolution of this
ecosystem as well. Blender's there, people can use blender, but it's it's a scary tool to use and this hopefully provides a less scary
first
first dive into this kind of stuff
When you said it works on phone
I'm not sure it works on Alpha DGN's phone because he's still using a flip phone. So that's
Yeah, probably not working
Yeah, try it So that's probably not working. Try it.
Yeah, try it.
I'm not allowed for frame damages.
What would you recommend to people that...
I think there's a huge group of people that have been around since Other Side Mint.
And with other space community and all the people around,
we are constantly talking about what to build, what to do on the other side, and all the people around, like we were constantly talking
about what to build, what to do in the other side, how to use the tech, right? So what would
you recommend to people so they can get some advantage or, you know, some edge for people
outside of Web3 that will come later? What should we do? What's the best way to learn,
to build something, to try something new? What
should be our goal also? Because I think that's also important with trying new things. Like,
if I don't have a goal and just messing around, it's great, but I usually don't push that hard.
For example, as if I say, hey, I want to build, you know, I don't know, Dino Park,
and I'm not going to finish unless or until I do that, right?
So what should be our goal these days?
I think, I mean, first of all, it's got to be fun, right?
You got to go into it with some kind of fun.
So I think I would, for me, I was talking to someone before this about, you know,
how they can utilize this tool for community activations and getting people involved.
I think that's probably a great place to start is maybe doing just a fun event or something where you're all trying to build something together.
That's just going to give you – I think it's really about having the fun introduction into these kind of tools and into this world of placing and building things.
Because AI is great with all this stuff.
I think it's really great for the assets,
but when it comes to placing things, it struggles a lot.
And it'll get better, but again,
just having the zero bandwidth ability
just to go and do it yourself physically,
A, it's so much more rewarding,
and B, it's just going to be much faster
when you can utilize both of these workflows together
in synchronicity.
And that's hopefully something I can, you know, down the line provide, you know, where there's some AI built in there.
But I don't want to provide that straight away because I don't want people to be – I think the AI does take away a little bit of the learning a lot of the time, right? So just as great a tool as it is, it can block some paths that you might kind of need to know if you want to get into the
deeper levels of these things. And it's better to have an idea of that going in and understand that
before you get confronted with that kind of brick wall, the tower of like information that you don't
know. Because you never know what you don't know.'s that's the one thing you'll learn as you go through these things come in with the big ideas do it
make the big environments with with the ai and then bring them into somewhere like here and start
playing with it start placing things by hand or or maybe maybe you want to make that a little bit
longer okay let's just do it and i think it's that's going to create a way less scary introduction into this stuff. Also,
there are, like I said earlier, if you go to stage one, right at the top there's a
learn button, beside that there's a stack of books. The stack of books is going to take
you to the learning center where you have learning paths so you can decide on different
paths of how you want to go about learning. You want to learn about MML or more the 3d side or texturing or whatever
And it's going to guide you through a bunch of the tutorials and challenges that are built in there in the background
You can create your own tutorials and challenges as well and hopefully
This is where I think the strength of the eye will come in is have an AI built in where you can say hey
I want to learn about this and it'll create your own tutorial for you.
And there you go, right?
You have a goal in mind, you type in the goal, boom.
It aligns all the things,
gives you a really solid tutorial and stuff.
Rather than doing it all for you,
it can maybe do a few of the small things and whatever,
but yeah, I think getting those things in sync
is where you're going have the fastest fastest building like the the most creative stuff
Because the more you understand the tools and understand why they work in the background
The more you're gonna know what you can build. So yeah, that's kind of what this is all about
My things I think did just get into the learning and the tools is the best way. Yeah, I agree. That's why I think like, holy shit, I know that voice.
I know that voice.
And I found a clip, man.
I found a clip, so I'll quickly play it, guys.
And then he knows what's coming.
Oh my God, please don't come.
But I'm going to come.
No, don't do it, don't do it.
But yeah, I found a voice.
I knew it's you, but that's my inspiration.
I will build something based on this. No, no, no!
Nah, it's not your f... who's... damn, I forgot the name.
Sophie Rain? That's the girl you DM'd? No, it's not about her, bro.
I am William Wallace. That's Haifa. And I see a whole army of my countrymen here in defiance
of tyranny. You've come to fight as free men. Yeah, this is Haifa onboarding into the Stage 1 platform, guys.
Live footage here.
But I think movies will be insane.
I know there's some IP rights, so you need to be careful.
But, man, building something from the Braveheart, that's my goal.
And, yeah, it's a lot of inspiration.
We have Jaws.
We have a Braveheart.
Of course, for Machiavelli, we need to build a Titanic there
because that's his most favorite soundtrack.
For Lost and Alpha Legion, I think, how do you call that?
A juice, orange juice.
How do you call that?
Like when they squeeze the juice out of the orange juice,
orange, I don't know, I forgot the word.
Pulp.
Pulp?
Yeah, something like that.
But it would be also cool to have cars on the other side.
I would love to have my own BMW so I could flex on you.
I don't know if it's possible to have it.
I know it's in Fortnite so it might be possible.
But Haifa, what's your goal for the other side? Do you have any idea what would you like to build there?
Oh man, I've been waiting. I've honestly just literally been waiting for the opportunity to get in and actually start building my full thing
but i like to let things take take time and like let my skills evolve but i started building stuff
out as soon as i got odk access but um it's just about having the time to dive into that right
i've been building so many different things i've built a few different games in the last few months
plus this tool and a bunch of other kind of stuff.
So, again, I just like to let whatever I'm doing evolve as it happens.
I'm really glad I have because very recently I was working on a Unity game and really diving into building out, like, a combat system in there.
And I managed to build something that's kind of like Devil May Cry kind of combat style,
if anyone ever played that. It's just like a fast-paced, like, battle kind of that's kind of like Devil May Cry kind of combat style, if anyone ever played that.
It's just like a fast-paced battle kind of button bash kind of thing.
And then I was halfway through building this little game out for it, and then I was just like, oh my god, why am I doing this here and not just building it into ODK?
Because I was trying to build it for a web-playable game.
So I was really going highly optimized and really refining things,
and it was taking a long time.
And then I just realized, I was like, God,
I think I just played the other side one night.
I was like, God, this isn't, you know, it's optimized and stuff,
but it's playable.
It's a PC game that's playable through the web
because you can do the streaming thing.
And I was like, oh, my God, why am I just building into the ODK?
So I will be migrating that entire combat system to the ODK
and building some stuff.
Hopefully we'll just open that up for people to build into
if that's possible.
But it's pretty cool.
And then in terms of I've got a whole flingers build
that I've planned out and I know what I want to do there.
I've also got a build for the little robots
that I made for the heart.exe other games kind of creation challenge that they did a while ago.
So there's a bunch of different things that I'm going to build there.
There's also a few kind of like experiences like the bathroom blitz and stuff that I've got.
One of those I've had my, again, I've had this one idea for so long that I just need to build it.
I actually
should go start building that really soon it's a shooter thing but with a really interesting like
mechanic to it um I think maze runner or something like that but anyway uh uh yeah so I've got tons
of plans for for when I get the chance to get in there it's just again I'm a solo guy I just do
all this on my own so um it's just about finding the time but I'm sure solo guy. I just do all this on my own. It's just about finding the time.
But I'm sure that will come at the right opportunity.
I'm not worried too much about being first or anything like that.
I just want to do something solid and fun.
It's got to be fun.
Sounds great, man.
I figured out a word that I wanted to actually translate.
It's a juicer, right?
The funny thing is that when I put it into the Google Translator,
I actually mistyped in my language the juicer,
and it said wiener, which is really weird, right?
I don't know why it said wiener when it should be juicer.
I don't understand it, but I didn't put Alpha Dijan in there,
but Alpha, welcome here. How are you doing, bro? Man, if you put put alpha dj in there but you know alpha welcome here
how you doing bro man if you put alpha dj in there it's gonna come out as a hoser or something i
don't know fire hose i don't know it's gonna come out something very i don't even know bro i don't
know the translation between english and german but it's gonna be a weird word man i'm doing good
man thanks for asking how you doing today bro doing great man did
you have time to actually play with mml or any of these tools to bring any objects into life
i didn't but what i did have time for was when i went to a fest in vegas i took a picture with some
mfr and when they edited the picture they edited put their their arm and elbow all over me and put their coin over their face
where they was not doxing themselves but now i wasn't even in the picture i was like oh look
at this mfl so i got time today i don't have time for mml but i got time for the shenanigans and the
tomfoolery so yeah let's let the games i know i'm just kidding no i haven't been on internet
oh my god we should start a comedy club here uh but it's great that uh you know that you have ceos like alpha dj that they actually join us here like regular people in spaces it's uh it's always
refreshing so big shout to you this guy just won't let me be the janitor
man he just won't let me be the cleanup guy but i get it you know the guys who do all the heavy
lifting and all the hard work like showbiz and you know people with names like sprain that you
can't even pronounce those guys do all the stuff man so're going to put them in the front and keep them out there. Look at this guy laughing.
Mr. Alien.
I guess if we started talking like that, he would understand and jump in the conversation.
But no, man.
Yeah, I'm always here, bro.
I love to see it when your show is up.
I always try to get in here if I can and help.
You know, I'm usually triggered when you start saying stuff about the, you know, the orange juice and all of that.
But I'm here for it, man.
Love to be here and love what you're doing for the show.
And the space.
Yeah, I also will try to find footage of actually Alpha DGN in Las Vegas
hiring new members into the Orange family.
But yeah, I'll need a few minutes to find it.
So let's say
hi to hype hype how you doing man what's good i'm so glad that he came after the wiener conversation
because he's definitely the guy that should be the wiener so i'm i'm good bro i'm perfectly fine
at least my conversation makes sense this guy goes for fucking wieners they're fucking his face being
covered what's wrong with these guys in Orange, bro?
I don't know what's going on.
It's just a two-part name.
It's Wiener Schnitzel.
So you got to say the whole name.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Was I unmuted?
Guys, I found it.
I have a speech from Vegas, guys.
It's AlphaDG recruiting new MFers into the Orange group.
I don't know how long it is, but I will give it like 10 seconds, you know, like the start.
It was incredible work.
I'm so happy that he didn't recruit us because we are Aquas forever but uh yeah i have it here yourselves each and every one of you has been handpicked to represent our inaugural pledge class over the next 21 days
you're all going to experience intense mental and physical strain. Stop! Frank, just pace yourself.
This was me.
Copy that.
Just got a little overexcited.
Sorry.
At this point,
you may be asking yourself,
why am I holding this 30-pound cinder block in my hands?
You might also ask yourself,
why does this cinder block have a long piece of string tied to it?
And finally, why is the other end of this string tied securely to your penis?
Holy shit, truth is out there in the wild guys yeah i didn't want to
share it uh alpha region but i had to you know um sorry i want to
i don't know how to say this don't say anything brother just just keep them yeah just just
so proof you know we orange so probably You can understand right why does
Aqua always like
To talk about penis
Dick
You know
You know what I'm talking about bro
Why they always talking about that
I think the greater question is did he sign
Up you know he said I was recruiting him
With that video I mean with that
With that clip did he Grateful did you sign up? You know, he said I was recruiting him with that video. I mean, with that clip.
Did he...
Grateful that you sign up back to the show, man.
I'm sorry, bro.
I didn't mean to dis-
Yeah, bro.
I derail you.
Let's go.
I know, dude.
That's weird, bro.
Touche, my boy.
Well, it's really weird that for Chespi, you were like, damn, this rope is too thick.
I need to buy a fishing line you know so um yeah yeah but
a different topic guys uh i hope you recruited some some you know people into apes uh uh it was
wild strip 100 we're talking mml guys we're talking mml um and um also uncle mac will be joining us soon
so yeah
Hype, did you have a chance to actually try
MML, build something, do something with it?
Yeah, I built a couple things last week
I think I mentioned on your last base
I built a 8000 foot bridge
that was kind of fun
I was going to put it back in world
but no, I decided to pull that out pause I did what I saw. I was going to put it back in world and just, you know.
But no, I decided to pull that out.
Pause.
I built also, again, it takes a little fine-tuning, right?
The biggest thing, and I think it was mentioned on Tuesday,
is you got to feed the right information into Quad, right?
The MMO documents.
You got to provide the right information for it to actually load on the MMO site. But I played around with a five-level maze.
So I put together a five-level stacked maze with each level having kind of different paths with rams going up.
So I'm still working on that.
But it's been fun.
I mean, again, once you get into the groove of actually trying stuff out, it becomes endless.
And I think that's the best part.
It's one of those things where you discover and then you get to play around and you get hooked very quickly. So I do have some other assets I want
to put in the world, but I just been kind of keeping sidelined for now just to play around
with, make sure it's actually acceptable for me to put in. But yeah, there's a few things. It's
fun though. I think once people get introduced to it, and I think people that are a little less
advanced, once they get the understanding of how to do it, I think everybody's going to spark their
energy of their creativity so
yeah i 100 agree man it's it's so much fun to try stuff uh play with it and bring it to life
it's incredible and with that bridge i actually want to bring i man i will i will try to actually build a longer bridge than yours.
Yeah, it's going to be the biggest bridge in the other side.
You know, if you use the bridge generator from shot one, you can just drag that all the way along.
That's what I'm going to do.
How long do you want to be?
Like 10 inches.
I don't know, man.
Yeah, I don't think you have trouble.
Oh, brother.
You won't have a problem loading it into
Hypha's platform.
No, even longer
probably, but
yeah.
I also love the deed and everything, you know, the wind noise.
I know AlphaDigent loves wipe coating, so wind noise is incredible there.
But yeah, Haifa, one more, and that's a very important question.
So how can people support you right now with your platform?
What's the best way I mean just I guess using it sharing it trying to get
communities and stuff using it there is you know there is other ways to support
on that platform in terms of like monetary if you want to do that there's
like a subscription you get AI credits and stuff and unlimited projects uh for
that you do have some limits on what you can do for free uh but otherwise all the tooling is there
for free uh as i said i'm going to be uh working on getting some funding through the scottish
government for this because it's a it's a tool that uh that you know we're looking into support
and stuff like that here a lot so it's something i I really want to, as long as I can, keep it free and just open to use and just charge for the credits and AI stuff.
Because you can just generate stuff directly in there if you want.
And then you can save it and you can actually publish it to the community assets.
So then anyone can use it.
Again, sideload also is integrated there.
So you can generate stuff in sideload, a model, not avatars right now, but 3D models,
and then you can just, I believe, publish it directly to Stage 1 as well.
Just contributing, activating your community on a little build or something,
even maybe just going and creating a little community project.
a community project anyone can go and do that right now and yeah just using it's
Anyone can go and do that right now.
gonna support support me way more than anything else I think at the moment but
yeah
hey guys hundred percent swipe there there is a pin tweet you can go there and
join the platform it's crazy you don don't need to even register or sign up.
You can just go there and start using it.
Also, I saw Frosty's here.
Oh, he's still here.
He has also an incredible platform.
So guys, support these MFers.
Go there, test it out.
Share what you've built there.
I think it's really important because
that should be the utility of Web3, right?
That we as a community, we help them and use those platforms, give them a feedback, subscribe if you really want to use it more and have fun.
Because it's really easy to create with these.
And I will definitely build that bridge, Haifa.
Oh my God, they will hate me on the other side.
They will probably ban me.
I'm going to be like those Air Jordan ones
when they banned them and they had to,
Nike had to pay like $5,000 for each game.
Yeah, back in the eighties, right?
So another fucking joke for people 50 plus, I'm sorry guys.
So only me and Alpha Dijan will get this one, maybe hype,
because he actually read uh slam magazine so it was in
the in the section uh basketball history from from the past but yeah guys uh definitely support
these guys they are incredible um really really hyped about it anyone here on stage any questions
for hypha this never works guys guys. I tried, every time
I tried to ask people, hey, do you have any questions? No one
ever asks a question. I don't know why,
but no one ever.
What the fuck? I do it
opposite.
If you ask a question, you'll be kicked
out of the stage. Don't do it.
Especially if you have orange background.
That's already built in right there we
know it but no man hypha um man you just keep cooking bro uh i've seen you in the morning
spaces from here to there from all the way across the world and uh each time man you just you keep
bringing on the heat so um kudos to you i don't know if you hear that enough you know flowers to you bro and
you know somebody i think it won't be a too tall of a lift for somebody to see that and recognize
that in you and uh and help to uh put that thing together for you so yeah man keep on building
and keep on burning up the burning up the uh the uh, the trails and, you know, keep taking us higher.
So hats off bro.
Thank you,
man.
We appreciate that so much.
Yeah. I mean,
I just want to help provide some,
you know,
fun tool and stuff for the community.
Hopefully one day this will replace the actual MML editor in a way.
It kind of can already,
but it's,
it's a bit looser.
I've kept,
I want it to be more fun.
So like I want more objects and stuff.
So it's not perfect yet, but yeah, I really appreciate everyone's support for all the
different kind of stuff I'm doing.
Again, I just like, you know, this was a seven day build, so we'll see what happens in the
next seven days or the next couple of months.
For marketing in Web3, you need to be, you need to be like, I've been building this platform
for 10 years, guys, and
token launch is next week, so
get ready for TGE.
You need to market
it a little bit. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Don't do that.
It's definitely important to note that
there's definitely six
years of 3D experience there
behind that tool as well.
Most people couldn't
just run in and build something something like that uh so fast and you know even with claude
it took a while going back and forth i definitely burnt out uh a few chat a few days of uh usage
they're making it but uh but yeah no it's like definitely it's why like i think we were talking
about the other day james was mentioning in the morning space that like uh you, it's like definitely it's why I think we were talking about the other day, James was mentioning it in the modern space that like, you know, it's kind of scary sometimes when all these things are evolving so fast around you.
But if you can, if you still have the knowledge and somewhere, if you just give in and use those tools as much as possible, you'll find your little slot where you've got a specific thing that you know and you can develop something just as fast and just as comprehensive or whatever um you know
it's not finished yet by any means but it's for me it's a good start uh i'm excited about it and
seems like a lot of other people are so yeah shout out to shout out to the community because
the community kind of inspires these things like i got inspired in the middle of a in the middle of
another you know of the render pool from from tropical it was halfway through that i was like oh god maybe i could do
this and then it just took off you know uh 90 of it was built in three days so shout out to tropical
and everything those guys are doing as well because you know they're he's creating a creative
space just to be creative and that's where you need those spaces for things like that to come out, for the ideas, for whatever to come through.
So yeah, shout out to him and the rest of the crew there.
And everyone else who's just getting involved creatively.
You're all killing it.
Hell yeah, I think it would be really dope for projects on Apechain to,
I don't know how they can do it but to give us objects representing
those projects right so
I don't know for example
with
G's right like you can
have I don't know some
I don't know whatever but maybe
throne or I don't know maybe
swords or something like that or wonk
yeah you want to share something?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Dope.
Yo, what's good?
Grateful, did you check those demos I sent you?
For that, for Church's Club?
Bro, that thing be cooking.
It be cooking, bro.
Not yet.
I will 100% check it out after the show, man.
I have like 69 tabs open here, so...
That's the life, bro. You know what sparked in my head?
You know when you're charging Peter, asking the questions?
Because of you, it can go to Google, go to different platforms for you you will not really need to like
change type like to go to the actual platform and read the sheet you just get the sheet effect to you in charge gpt now with this thing i'm doing with trashy school yeah you know normally
you'd if you want to like open a long or advances you'd have to like close your core app go and
open the advanced app open your log but now you just type it in the
not even to the bot directly in your group chats where your friends are at or maybe you want to
like tell them about the trade they are opening you just type in the group chat and then everybody
sees it and then the bot sees it and goes to go and trade it automatically but it's crazy what
ai can do now it's so crazy like it's so it's so bonkers what AI can do now. Like, the future I see is we are going to be, like, in literal Discord.
Like, we are just, like, in Discord.
Open long.
And then everybody wants to get into the long.
And then the board is just going to open long for everybody in the chat.
Like, this is automated.
You won't click any extra thing.
I don't send the text message in the group chat.
It's crazy, bro.
It's crazy.
Crazy, man. And when you mentioned question, bro,
it reminded me, damn, what's the name of that movie? But I'll play it
anyway, and maybe someone figure out what's the name of the movie.
Knock, knock. Reserve.
We will ask the questions!
Now get out of here, bro.
It's crazy, bro. that's wild man uh but talking about tools man haifa what are your most favorite tools these days most favorite tools uh i mean honestly like cla just been, like, such a great companion for the last, like,
I think I've been using that now for, like,
maybe six, seven or eight months or something pretty consistently.
I use that just directly with Visual Studio Code,
which is kind of like a cursor.
I use that.
Blender's been my best friend for, like, six years now.
But I also use, I mean, honestly, I use, like,
in my 3d workflow i
have like 20 different softwares that i use uh and each of them are i love to each in their own
respect um i really love unity i really love unreal engine they all have their own little
thing but uh yeah my favorite yeah that's hard i think just think just the AI is easily my favorite one because it's just expanding everything that I can possibly think or do
or concept and all this kind of stuff.
It's really, it's easily the best tool we've ever created.
You know what I mean?
It's just amazing when it's used in really good ways and stuff.
So, yeah, that's probably the best one.
Probably my favorite.
I would be gutted if I didn't have it, you know.
But then I do love just all the other stuff.
Like, yeah, Blender is just so much fun to work in.
Houdini is another one.
It's super fun.
And a lot of these are deep engineering.
You know, Houdini is crazy.
Like, even I get lost in there
after 5 minutes, it's crazy software
it's really intense
but super fun when you do just a couple of things
it's like oh my god I made 3 cubes
I'm a wizard
it's crazy
but yeah all these kind of things
I'm loving
I guess just the
this MML system and the avatar system
as well has been, I think that's kind of looking at that as a tool as well, because that's been
super fun. That came for me as like a massive inspiration and help for my entire project,
for my entire project because I've been planning through customization and stuff for a long
because I've been planning through customization and stuff for a long time, and I was,
time and I was, I had a full customization blender file long before the other side came
along and stuff because that was part of what I wanted to do with the flingers.
And I just hadn't, it was, I was taking a long time to decide on a system and how I
want to do that and blah, blah, blah.
And then, oh, here comes the other side with, here's our system.
And it just so happens to support full customization and all this kind of stuff so that's been super amazing
as well uh just in terms of like activating me and giving me some direction to move um
just synchronized with a few things that i was wanting so yeah all these things everything
there's so many other tools out there that other people were building you know like sideload's super cool for the 3d models um it's got like that's why i've been really impressed
with the uh the 3d model side of it because he's seemed to tune it into uh like the other side
style and everything's really cohesive it looks really good they're not so optimized so be careful
but um but that's something that's you know obviously just comes with time and stuff
like that but they look great they look fantastic really really on point um obviously frosty's tool
is super cool i haven't used that so much because obviously i just work with claude all day anyway
but if if you're looking to get started honestly that's what like i don't see my tool replacing
anything else i think these things should complement each other and you know go work with
that one but maybe you don't have to, you know, go work with that one.
But maybe you don't have to, like, you know, spend all your credits just fixing some small things here and there.
You can just pull it to MyTool, quick update it.
You don't even have to log into MyTool.
You can just go throw it in.
It's like the MML editor.
So you just go in, chuck stuff in, you can take the code out and then just go back, you know.
So all these things together, like this whole kind of small system of tooling that's it's starting to grow for us all this is is my favorite thing right now because it's
it's very cool and fun
well that was the long answer it's sorry damn wonk is always long here uh what Wong? I don't know.
Probably everything with Wong.
But hey, guys, I think this is a huge opportunity for everyone.
So please try those tools.
I'll be checking your wallets and everything that you've been cooking.
But again, I would love to have those.
Yeah, that's my biggest idea from this space.
I would love to have those objects from projects, actually.
And I really, when we are building on our deeds, I want to have, you know, let's say typical
tiger's corner there, or aliens there, or I can have a showbiz statue there, or either animations
are there, right? But if they create it as an object, maybe even
I can buy it for, you know, a few ApeCoin or if I have a collection
I can use it. I would love to have that. So I really hope and I know
Rita showed me something that I never
seen before and it was impressive.
I can share it with you here, of course.
It's very hard to share it also
with just audio, right? It's better for the video production, but
yeah, so I know people have been working on that.
So yeah
We need to get the other side the Dina sets in there and to stage one, huh? I'm not just yeah
Yes, then I see there's a few people down there but that'd be kind of cool.
Yeah I know AlphaDigen he love acid, Deed.
Yeah I'm an old school stoner. Don't dox me bro with my age because you know.
But yeah old school stoners we like acid so hey let's do it let's rock this
thing out bro and that's i don't think there's nothing wrong with that
yeah i alpha i didn't i didn't want to damn wonk is wild man he is wild in here i didn't want to
dox you but can you guys imagine that alpha actually dm me uh yesterday and he was like
there you know want to be a player he scored 83 yesterday and he was like, you know, want to be a player?
He scored 83 points.
And I was like, oh, of course, you MF, right?
I'm not buying that lie.
It's 2026.
No one can score 83 points, right?
And shoot over 43 throws.
And yeah, of course, you know, he had again some,
he was on a trip probably.
He was on a trip.
So yeah.
But AlphaDGN, we need to do ApeFast 2026.
We need to do live roasting.
It's got to be like a comedy show, but it's got to be live roasting.
Aqua versus Orange.
I would say versus, you know, not versus.
Yeah, versus.
Versus, like wipe coating, right?
Orange.
And we have to do that, man.
We have to do that because that
will be and we can be physical like we can we can harm each other right with a baseball no no no no
just with words just with words i know alpha dj i was already with my baseball bat oh anyway bro
but we have to charge tickets bro of course oh shit it's gotta be like in that old school movie they had like what was it
you know how blue died in that
movie
that's how
we should be
playing the game like that right
yo grateful can I share one of those demos
to the
to the Jumbotron yeah
share those demos bro share those demos, bro.
Share those demos, man.
That demo was sick, bro.
Y'all got to see this.
Y'all got to see this. I've seen a lot today, so I'm ready, bro.
I'm ready, bro.
We definitely have to...
Call me right up.
Call me right up.
I'm cooking.
He's talking like he's seen a bunch of feet pics or something today, man.
Take it easy, bro.
I'm telling you, bro. These Apple,, bro. I'm telling you, bro.
These Aqua, they're always talking about weird shit, bro.
Nah, nah.
We good.
We good.
Talking about Aqua.
Cyber Jake Aped.
What's good, man?
How you doing?
What a beautiful Aquamarine background.
Hey, you know, I'm on Team Aqua Marine.
Grateful.
I'm actually picking up my dog from the groomer right now, and I wanted to be a part of the
conversation and join, but right now is like the worst time for me.
But I did want to give Pipe a shout out because I got to play around with the tooling that
he made.
It's really amazing.
Everyone should go check it out.
I love it.
I think you could do a free Ape Chain promotion.
So if you can unmute and scream Ape Chain on top,
so you can onboard everyone around you,
we would really appreciate it.
Ape Chain on top!
Let's go!
CyberJayApe, go!
Let me give him a lesson on that.
It's like this.
APE CHAIN ON TOP!
Oh, sorry.
Was I unmuted? Yeah, I can't yell where I'm at right now, lesson on that it's like this oh sorry was i muted
yeah i can't yo arm out right now but they've seen on top
love it oh alpha dc i actually heard it but not through my headphones
oh my god it traveled all the way over the ocean man it's incredible
incredible tech i love it i love it i I bet Hodler right now is kicking his screens.
And this mother...
He know I got these headphones on my head.
This mother...
Yeah, man.
Always a good time at Grateful Show, man.
Grateful Show number 200 million...
Oh, no, that's Squiddy.
Grateful Show number 446, man.
If you like what you're hearing, if you're part of the conversation,
go down to the bottom right corner.
Hit the purple pill and pay this man some respect, man.
He's here all the time, man.
And it's a hard thing to do.
It's not easy.
So show him some respect.
Show him some love.
Hit the purple pill.
Work all the buttons like you're a switchboard operator.
There you go.
Back to you, Grateful.
Man, love that promo. Thank you so much. And we also have to ask Hype, with his elite background,
about the collection, man. Any news that you can share with us? Last time you gave GTDs, bro.
Everyone was so excited. I'm a little deaf, bro, after that.
You know what?
I think this guy is actually an aquamarine with, like, orange on top.
Not, like, literally on top, but I feel like he actually should be
awkward.
Hey, train on top!
Seems like that. Yeah, I don't know if the dogs
heard that, bro. I don't think they...
Is he
turned into a robot, or is that me? No, he's been a robot or is that me
No, he's been a robot since they won but
Hype bot interesting
You're hype you did turn into a robot for a minute bro
Am I good Am I good? Am I good?
Aquamarine on top. Get on top, honey.
That happens every time when I call his
wife, you know.
Oh boy.
He just...
Now he's gone. Now he's gone.
Oh my god. Oh, he's definitely not here.
What the
fuck?
These guys
are jamming my fucking signal.
Yeah, we send the signal jammers to all the
Aquamarines. Sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'll say
real quick, yo. I talked about it on
Tuesday, yeah. So Mimus are coming out
start of April, haven't announced
the official date.
A lot of people in this room are part of the Ape Chain ecosystem,
of course,
and there's a lot of apes
in the room as well.
So stay tapped in.
This is going to be,
obviously, for you guys,
a free mint,
free claim.
So I'm excited.
We're rolling out more details
over the next couple weeks.
We're just finalizing,
I'm not going to say today,
but we're finalizing avatars.
So looking forward to getting that
all in world on the other side. So they'll all be one-to-one. So working on that. But yeah, we're finalizing uh avatars so looking forward to getting that all in in world on the
other side so they'll all be one to one so working on that but yeah we're we're excited more more
information to come grateful definitely gonna kind of get together with you and do a space
in the next couple weeks here but yeah just getting everything worked out but i appreciate
you of course this is a beautiful aquamarine Mimu transformed from my ape.
And I would like to add also that I'm really excited for you
that launch partner for this drop is actually Magic Eden, guys.
So it's going to be awesome.
Don't tell them that yet, bro.
Because you will be able to mint your ape chain NFT there,
but you're not going to be able to actually trade them or sell them or even see them.
Look, we are going to be the first NFT project launched on Ape Chain on Magic Eden version 2.0.
Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Guys, also in 37 minutes, there is going to be a render pool. Definitely go in there to learn more about cooking in 3D.
Guys have been so consistent, absolutely love it. So many great ideas came out of render pool. Right Haifa?
Honestly, no diss and I know you can wake me off the stage as soon as I say it,
but it's my favorite time of the week.
It's my favorite space or bubble or anything.
It is just a great time.
So many cool creative conversations and people showing up.
And it's just fantastic.
Like it is one of the,
one of the rare,
rare finds on Ape Chain for the,
definitely for,
for people like me.
Anyway,
so yeah,
show up.
This is,
this is, this is this is
this is the second second best because i'm here and gun to head and stuff so yeah you're up there
i want i want to add something i want to add something to that also if you just if you'd like
to just go in there and listen to tropical's voice it's so soothing the way he speaks it's just so
melodical you know what i mean just go in there hear him speak he breaks it down you might actually
don't fall asleep but um if you do just yeah just pretend you're not sleeping but no he's he's a
he's a great teacher for sure he's an amazing guy and um he's got a lot of talent bringing to the
space so you know i want to say really quickly to hypha you know uh you've been amazing in this space
giving a lot of resources a lot of tools and you know, it shows not only in you as a person,
but also shows in the work you do.
So I just personally want to give you a shout out
just because I know you've been working very hard since I've met you
and obviously before that.
But if you guys don't know about Hypha, like he cooks,
he definitely cooks and he takes the time.
He definitely takes the time to speak with you.
So definitely don't miss on tapping with Hypha.
I very unapologetically would like to say
the render pool is my favorite space sorry grateful sorry I apologized no
it's great guys it's great and I like tropicals voice I don't know how is he
doing that but it's absolutely crazy and hype you said don't fall asleep during
that space I would add one more thing to not do during a tropical space.
Do not come. Do not come.
I'm going to come.
I'm going to come.
Oh my God, this is going to be bad.
All those AI bots that will scrape this space
They'll be really confused what happened here. They'll be really confused what happened here and uncle Meg
He was like, holy shit. I'm gonna drop down. I'm gonna drop down
He was like I'm out of here, bro. He came and he's gone
I think that's probably
What is it?
I don't think dropping down
After you said I'm going to come
Is not probably the best two things to put together
Laughing like a couple of apples
I'm kidding sorry
It's not sorry
You know what's funny
It's only on top of my head because I got the beanie on
Yeah don't say that though Don't say top of my head because I got the beanie on. Yeah, don't say that, though.
Don't say top of your head.
Aqua Marine got my back.
Team Aqua.
Uncle Mac is back, man.
So, Uncle Mac is back.
Uncle Mike is bike.
Grateful.
Can I just say one thing before Uncle Mac goes?
I think he's coming up.
I don't know if he's on stage.
Just quickly, we announced this morning we're doing our other game Saturday, 3 p.m. Eastern.
We've announced this morning on our main page we're going to be doing a partnership this weekend with Benny.
Benny the Bunny from MM and the team.
So the avatars, I believe, are out.
I believe they're still minting right now as we speak.
But this Saturday
Honeybee put out the video on other games
go check it out if you haven't checked out the video, it's a banger
so we got Banny the Bunny this weekend
with other games at 3pm Eastern
Let's go, that's the Alpha man
I missed the Saturday one
because I went to some IRL
and it was so bad man
I felt terrible
I really hope we will be able to join those from phone at one point because I went to some IRL and it was so bad, man. I felt terrible.
I really hope we will be able to join those from phone at one point because that would help a lot.
Because social interactions and going IRL, it's terrible anyway.
Why to meet people IRL if you can hang out with them online?
It makes no sense.
It's stupid.
AI bots, they'll be so confused they'll they'll be so confused whenever they summarize this show they'll be like i you
know they say one thing that they change it uh 360 degrees and they say something totally opposite
that's on purpose umf. No one will copy us.
So yeah.
Hype will do everything possible to be there.
It's always great. It's always fun.
And you also did part
in the Vibe Maker world. Is that correct?
Yeah, I mean, I've been
in there. Obviously, I've been
playing around in there for sure.
If you guys haven't seen, Honeybee's got a few different games in there right now, some that obviously he puts
in the world during the play on Saturdays. But yeah, I think it's going to be cool that we can
start, again, going back to the MML stuff and vibe making, being able to create experiences for our
communities. That's the biggest thing, right, is now you can actually explore ideas around
creating, you know, specific activations
while you're in game, so
it's gonna be cool, man. Like I said, you know, this Saturday
we got, we got Banny, we got some stuff in store,
we don't know where we're gonna be playing yet, but
I guess you have to come in on Saturday to find out, but yeah,
make sure you guys, I put it to the top, grateful, but
go watch the banger video that Honeybee made
for this weekend.
Man,
since Honeybee moved to Bangkok,
his videos are such
bangers, bro.
It's absolutely
crazy, man.
But,
yeah.
Check the video, guys. Check the pinned tweets.
We have a lot of great stuff
there. Oh my god, this video is really cool.
I love it, love it.
You guys are killing it.
Support other games, guys.
They've been hosting other side events for ages,
since I remember.
And I would also love to say hi to Uncle Mac here.
Uncle Mac, how is it going?
You know, I don't know.
You know, Alpha DJ was like,
it's Uncle Mac. I don't know what's going on there. You know, I don't know. You know, Alpha DJ was like, it's an ankle mock.
I don't know what's going on there.
You know.
You got to say it right, bro.
It's ankle Mack.
Come on, ankle Mack.
Tell us ankle Mack.
Ankle.
He's an ankle breaker.
Yeah, that was his basketball name, ankle Mack.
Hey, what's going on, Uncle Mack?
What you up to today, good sir?
Hey, this is uh this is ankle mike uh nice to nice to see you all how you doing prof of
alpha doogen exactly groupful is not a bad name you know if you were a tree instead of an eight
you could be you could be like you could be groupotful Oop. I'm down for that rebrand.
Grootful Poop?
No, Grootful Oop.
You're like,
Oop?
It sounds kind of,
I don't know.
It says basketball name.
It says basketball name.
Oh yeah,
that works.
Yeah,
I'm searching
movie reference.
I almost got it.
Give me a second.
Can devs do something?
What?
Your face has to be twisted and distorted when you say that,
though. Can the devs do something?
You know, you gotta come from down, from the heart,
you know, like you really heard. Can the devs do something?
Where are the devs? heard can the devs do something where are the devs
almost have it you emma first be ready or you're not ready
uh meanwhile uncle mike uh share with us what you've been cooking with mml man
Well, Uncle Mike, share with us what you've been cooking with MML, man.
Well, I've been doing the trees.
We did the trees.
We did the world.
We made pigs.
Pigs that flew sometimes.
Sometimes pigs walk through other pigs.
But then, so I don't know if anyone's done this yet, and hopefully not.
Hopefully I'm the first to do it.
I thought, I wonder if I can make a whole avatar that's rigged and moves just out of MML primitive blocks.
So that's what I've been playing around with for last night, as well as all the other nonsense I get up to.
But Haifa, have you tried this?
There's one built into stage one right now.
You can go in.
There's actually, okay, so on avatars for that,
I've got the MML ones.
They look ridiculous now.
Like, honestly, go and look at it because they're terrible.
I didn't spend time refining it at all, but they're horrendous.
But then next to it, I've got some CC0 characters,
which are just kind of silly and fun as well.
They're, yeah, so you can go make a character and use them in the little world.
But they're not, I've not made it as an exportable MML character avatar or anything yet.
But I did try it.
But your ones looked, the one that you had in the world looked pretty good.
My ones look absolutely so stupid.
It's pretty fun.
I spent the evening teaching my Claude anatomy.
That's what I was fighting with.
It's actually really good at...
Because of the way that I built the trees,
it kind of understands how to build organic shapes.
So then making it build organic shapes in the form of a humanoid is quite fun as well.
Layering blocks upon blocks upon blocks to create tapers and transitions of things.
It's quite fun.
So everything up to the neck is impeccable.
He's got shoulder muscles, he's got thigh marks, he's got kneecaps, he's got ankle butt, he's got everything.
It's brilliant.
The head, I don't know what's wrong with GPT-4 and Cursor and Claude. They do not know what a
human head looks like. There's like eyebrows on like the side of the head. The ears are like
twisted upside down backwards. It's an absolute mess. So then I kind of took a leaf out of your
book and I essentially created MML Blender. So I created like a full sculpting Blender Studio just
for MML primitives. And that's what I've been doing. So I can a full sculpting Blender studio just for MML Primitives.
And that's what I've been doing. So I can now sculpt and then export the sculpt that I've made
and put it onto the body of the thing. So when I get home tonight, I'll post the progress I've
made so far. But it looks pretty cool. And I'm kind of like, it's got old school RuneScape vibes.
You know, the sort of blocky kind of shapes.
But you'll see. I think it could be quite cool and then obviously like make it generative
and like put armor and different clothes and
traits and stuff. I think it could be cool.
That's really cool, man.
I see another MFR here that's been cooking
like crazy and I actually have intro music
for him.
Because this will dox his location where he's from actually. So let's go. here that's been cooking like crazy and I actually have intro music for him because
this will dox his location where he's from actually so let's go.
One and only...
Frosties!
What's good, bro? How's it going, man?
Hey, very good.
Hey, man, I had a Pamela Anderson poster when I was a kid and you had an Arnie, you know, Terminator.
Yeah, Arnie, naked body.
Schnitzel, yeah?
No, no, just want to come up to speak a bit.
Let's go man.
So what you've been cooking man?
I've been cooking.
I've always been cooking something but it's a difficult market.
So I also built this MML Builder on other side Wiki.
Still cooking around some stuff.
Other page got me to an idea yesterday
when I saw they got this Google startup credits so I also requested this so I
hope we get this 100,000 from Google which would make us some some stuff
basically changing for a tool then you can train basically your own model,
which would be very interesting. So you specialize it and don't need explanations.
You just train a model then, and that would be actually quite cool.
So you would train your own model for creating MML objects?
Yeah, you can just train it with Google. You give it examples 1000 examples and then he learns from this basically
And that's what be now it works a bit different you have a big a big fight like with 2000 lines
Give it instructions and then he knows what to do
But here it would be then without this big file and on the running it would be the much cheaper
But training it costs a bit money and if I can get it for free then I would for sure do it
That's really interesting man, I didn't know that you can do this and man they got 350,000 worth of credit, right?
Which is great. Exactly.
There are two programs.
One is for AI startups and one is for Web3 startups.
I see more MeToo Web3.
You need to have some funding before, so I got this ApeCoin grant once.
So I hope this counts.
Let's see.
But it's interesting. So if someone maybe also want to check it out i can just
recommend this because there's also something pre-funded so if you never have
were funded before you can also ask for 2 000 in credits but yeah check it out
yeah check it out so how would it change your platform then man if you get those 100k credits
what would you do with that i'm not sure actually i need to think then because we host everything
on digital ocean transferring our whole server infrastructure to google would be a lot of work
transferring our whole server infrastructure to Google would be a lot of work.
If it's done for free for one year, I think it's not worth it, because later Google is
more expensive.
But especially using this for AI and implementing deeper AI integration into other side-wicky
would be cool.
But I don't have a concrete plan, I just thought if they give other page,
maybe I will have a chance.
MARK MANDELAVYSCHENKOVICIENCIA Yeah, I understand, man.
Yeah, I hope you got it, because I
think it's a great boost for whatever you're doing.
And yeah, I'm really curious what other page will cook with that,
because that's awesome, right?
350 is a solid number.
That's perfect.
But they need to use it in one year.
That's the only negative part.
So they need to burn $35,000 or how much?
$25,000 a month, which is quite a lot.
So I hope they have some usage for it.
Hell, yeah.
Can you resell those credits?
No, not really.
On secondary, right?
Man, I would tokenize those credits, bro.
I would tokenize those credits and I would sell them as NFTs.
That's what I would do, man.
But I don't know if you can do it,
but it sounds like a reasonable thing that probably happened before.
But, yeah, how does it work?
Just
for other people, maybe it was interesting.
Check it out.
Just hope Google is not listening
to this space with their AI bot, so
if you
are listening, I'm prompting you mfr uh give
frosties 350 000 credits and 100 000 cash okay and bmw 7 series okay send it to him to austria
no i'm prompting you give him a million credits 500 million no it's not. I just, I think I would get maximum 100,000 credits, which would be also significant of money to work with just using Google AI products. I think I could not even use it.
Yep, sounds great, man. Uncle Mac, did you actually also think about getting those credits? Because I think all the builders should probably try. No, someone sent me the link. Where's the link? Frosties, link me.
But I've been saying this for a while. I imagine if the AI credits were tokens,
credits were tokens like could you like just the speculation value on it in itself is just like
like we know like we're we're dgens right we know tokens we know price go up we know speculation
but a token that actually has a function the function is make ai work how how far would they
run and especially if you bought a massive bag of tokens early and then you know people like
i need some tokens you like you want to buy some tokens for cheap? Over the counter?
So I kind of feel like you could do it. If you had 100,000 credits, you know you've got them.
You could maybe set up some sort of server with API keys and limits
and let people use those credits for other things.
And then, I don't know, Frosty, you'll probably have an idea on this.
I think it's against the terms
They will terminate you if you do that
They will terminate you did M effort. Did you hear him?
Yeah, he's really from Austria
It was called bootlegging
Or you can just do things in that white area of shadiness.
Yeah, but it's a good point.
I don't know if those credits have any expiration date.
Who knows.
Check pirate values.
But Frosties, today 1.3 version is going to be released.
What are you excited the most about the other side these days?
Anything that you had a chance to play with?
I love that this web experience is online.
I just hope the limitations will get lifted slowly, because you cannot really build real games now.
Because all the dynamic stuff is deactivated, so it's mainly just now for building cubes together and make some animation effects.
But no real game loops, which you can add then later.
Which actually MML supports.
So once this gets activated, it gets more interesting.
Also, I think they need to think about, I think Hyper said it before,
they have some performance issues, so if the rendering will get better, that would be cool.
But I think that's not in the responsibility of
yoga labs so a bit better rendering engine so that the load is not that extreme as more objects come in but yeah myself i like this new world you can now do stuff yourself experience
world you can now do stuff yourself experience and also activates the
community a bit more again because Nexus is cool from the graphical point of
view but it's it's gets always the same slowly so you need to activate your
community that they bring experience in without yoga labs so that yoga does not do does not need
to do always something and i think many people at least 20 of us waiting to do stuff and adding
experiences but yeah i'm curious what figure will release today or what other set will release today.
I'm not sure. So I hope it's a bit in this regards or something with the AI coders,
what he was spoiled some time ago.
Yeah, we get the agent API today, don't we? I'm sure that's what James and FIGGI said.
Yeah, they said it here yeah on Tuesday
yeah I'm refreshing the site there's a fresh GM on underside meta account so let's see when they announce it cannot wait there is also me did a clubhouse today guys so I don't
know if usually the the upgrades are happening before or after I don't know but it should happen
today so I'm really really hyped for that also guys in 15 minutes render pool is happening so
go there have fun so you can learn morek, if you miss that render pool,
bro, it's going to be really, really wonk for you, okay? We have a Frosties, the Terminator
here on stage, so be careful, be careful, Wonk. But guys, anything excited or any other things
that you would like to chat about that really excites you these days?
Let's keep it web 3, okay?
I don't want to hear any... You don't want to hear about the longest bridge, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
But Frosty, you wanted to add something, so go ahead, bro.
When do you reveal your face?
Bro, I reveal that for $19.99 per month bro so no he didn't say when do you reveal your feats he said when do you reveal
your face oh face that's different that's the third one i I don't know, man. You saw it. You paid for it, so you're good.
Yeah, but imagine you could pay with those Google credits, right?
That would be even better, bro.
Uncle Mike, go ahead.
Have you seen...
You know Jed?
You know Jed from The Regenerates?
You must know Jed.
He's got the second Griffith voice after Machiavelli.
He's put out a cool game called Rematch. There's a couple of Ape Chain projects in there. Mine
included obviously, but also Froglins by Art. And it's just a cool, simple battle game
with wagering mechanics. So it's as degenerate as you would like in a web3
format was that word battle yeah the word battle was in there yeah because that word went the
other way i'm glad i was paying attention because it caught me i thought you said a cool battle
game i'm like oh my god is this ever gonna stop? Dookie Dash, reincarnate.
Oh man.
Okay, sorry man, not sorry.
Oh, that'd be a fun... I wonder if one of us can whip up Dookie Dash with AI.
I bet, I bet...
Haifa, do you wanna...
Should we have a little vibe off Frosties?
Who else wants in on this thing?
I feel like we could make it.
We could totally remake that game in like... Do nowadays easy dookie dash yeah dookie dash yeah
i i i'm very bad with graphics so if you can do the graphics then yeah oh no i mean we could do
it all in mml i'm you know what i'm going that I'm getting home tonight. We're going to have MML Dash.
We need a better name.
Grateful, you got a better name for me?
You mean better name for MML?
No, a better name for Dookie Dash, but in an MML format.
We got to make it catchy.
It's got to be Dookie D's for the Dookie dirtiness.
I'm sorry.
Dookie D's?
I like it.
Dookie D's.
D's what?
D's? I like it. D's what? D's.
D's.
I hate.
Yeah.
One thing.
I don't know how is that possible,
but everyone in Web3 has such a great voice.
Or as Alpha DGN usually say, voice.
It's absolutely insane, guys. I don't understand it.
Like, I don't know if I should call you Alpha DGN or Jules. It's absolutely insane, guys. I don't understand it.
I don't know if I should call you Alpha DGN or Jules.
I don't know, man, but your voice is insane.
I don't know which way Jules is going to go.
Jules refers to Ds, too, so I don't know, bro.
This is just so bad. We're in a web of...
Oh, what a mangled web we weave, right?
But I think Dookie Ds is a good reincarnate for that.
Like, you know, Dookie D's part two, you know, D squared, Dookie D's.
It's just crazy.
Anyway, man, but that'll be awesome, Anko Mac, to see you, you know, redo that.
And then next thing you know, you go jump into one of those heliport things
those time port tunnels that you go
through and you're going down the dookie dash
hole
and winning some ApeCoin or something
Let's just call it other dash
that's the theme right
we all just put the word other
I'm over here with other
Hypha why didn't you what did you... Hypha, why didn't you...
What did you call it? Step one. Why didn't you call it
other step? Come on, man. Get on board with the brand bitch.
Stage one.
Other stage. Boom. Done.
It's web and MML focused.
It can be used heavily for the other site, but it's
more expansive than just
other side related. That's why...
I did hate other other i can't remember
what it was i did have i did have one i was looking at uh the the uh the domain form stuff
like that but but yeah i i wanted to keep it its own standalone thing my stage one dot font just
rolls off the tongue so like as soon as i came up with that i was like oh there you go it works it's perfect except for my brain that come like every single time i think of it converts into step one stage
like i can't get it i'm gonna stage one no wait is that even it i've completely forgotten is it
stage one it's like it's like a staging area or whatever right it's like yeah yeah something like
it's a stage two to build on
this guy this guy's a race car driver he's in his first stage of nitrous kick going down the track
and he pulls it boom he hit stage one boom stage two he's at the finish line let's go hypha
i mean actually thinking about it stage stage three you know we're in web three maybe that
would have been the one and you make the e be a three like we come on i've you gotta get on the branded man
i got i got my plans for further rollouts stage two stage three stage potentially four
oh you can't you can't go four that's way too far don't be a crazy
that's like a thousand years in the future though though. So I'm making big, big plans.
Stage four is after it all collapses,
and we're in a Fallout-style, post-apocalyptic world where we're dealing in bottle caps.
All the crypto has gone just bottle caps, stage four.
There's actually an AI startup here in Czech Republic
called Bottlecap AI.
I'm not kidding.
So, yeah.
Guys, what a great show today.
It's so much fun.
It was absolutely crazy.
But we have slowly to wrap it up because Renderpool is happening.
Guys, actually move it by one hour because the US time change.
I don't know, guys, what you do in there.
Why you change or why we changing later than you
or you changing earlier than us.
I don't know what's going on there.
It's kind of weird.
I already see Scotland and UK giving thumbs down.
But you are not Europe, guys.
I don't know what you're doing here. guys. I don't know what you're doing here
Yeah, I don't know
We're just like sailing on the ocean in between right now. We don't know what we're doing, but but yeah no thumbs down to the
desynchronized time
Why it's not just asking why
Who do you think you are you think you can change time on your own?
God damn Damn, it's absolutely crazy
but really hyped for render
pool and for guys they move it
so everyone can go there and join
anything else you would love to share
guys here
Haifa
Uncle Mac Frosties
yeah wonk of course
I didn't finish the rematch
it's called Rematch by Jed
by Regenerates, it's a cool game
he's bringing more stuff in
there's a whole white label thing
it's to benefit all the
communities that use it
if you refer in a community
there's some small
rake for you as the referrer.
It's your community.
You know, like the whole platform is built around, you know, these kind of like collaborative ideas.
It might be on base.
You know, we, we can't win them all.
But, you know, Jed's doing good shit out there.
So I would, I would check it out.
Yo guys, check out Church's Club, bro.
We'll be cooking. we'll be cooking.
There's no need to be leaving your app to trade now, just be your telegrammer and be cooking from telegram bro.
That's the way now, that's the way. AI is doing it, AI is doing it, AI did it.
What love bro, what love.
Let's go legends, what a great show today oh my god uh i have a feeling that other side has been
cooking a lot and uh with every updates you know figy mentioned that with 1.4 which is not that
that is happening today but um probably i don't know how often these updates are every two weeks
or something like that uh there will be some update of our Voyagers,
or as AlphaDigion say, Voyagers.
Voyagers.
Yeah.
So that's really exciting.
And Daniel Arsham Avatar should be released with that update.
So I can't wait for that one because that art was insane. I wanted that one so, so much.
And yeah, have a great weekend.
Have a great Friday.
We have a basketball show tomorrow with Squiddy and Marathon.
We're going to be talking about it.
Bam, 83 points.
Holy smoke.
It's absolutely wild.
It was kind of weird too, but we're going to be talking about it.
Playoffs is getting closer and closer.
Jason Tatum is back.
So yeah, AlphaDigion, go ahead.
Hey, I was just gonna say, when Haifa said that desynchronized time and that's really a problem,
I got an answer for that, bro. This is not a permissionless, I mean, this is a permissionless
space. So let's just make decentralized time. And we don't have to worry about that no more.
We just make it, we put it on our own time. Decentralized time.
We got big brains
like Haifa and Uncle Mac.
DST coming right up.
DST coming right up.
Yeah, bro.
We got big brains
like Uncle Mac and Haifa.
If we can't make
decentralized time,
we out of time, bro.
That's what it is.
That's what's next up
on the menu.
Let's make decentralized time
so everybody be on the same time.
There you go.
Alfa, imagine you're going for an appointment, right? You come there and they're like, hey, you're three hours later. And you're like, no, you are just in the wrong time zone.
Right. No, I'm on decentralized time. I'm not confined to any of that shit you talk about. What are you talking about? Let's get my surgery done.
say any of that you talk about what are you talking about let's get my surgery done
this is so long i actually feel like that that might be your best idea i've ever heard
like i'm i'm genuinely in for this let's let's make let's do it bro decentralized time i'm i'm
in i'm tired of this est every time someone tells me a time i have to go to google and have to go est to uk
and then after and then with this bloody nonsensical daylight savings time now i gotta go
an hour back and traffic decentralized time i'm in let's make it there you go with that's our
build-off uh task right there we test that to the build-off is to make decentralized time. Come on, man. Let's do it.
I've been always saying this, guys.
The best ideas are born during spaces and this is just
the proof. This is just
the proof.
I can imagine
the Austrian government will be like,
we are doing the biggest change
in Austria history.
We are shifting into the decentralized
time because of frosties he was the first one who actually heard it here and yeah it's gonna be an
incredible man do you think sir austria is quite good positioned in web3 actually there are two
good products pitt panda if you know them. And I'm not sure how these
tax off to a block pit.
So two big startups.
But yeah,
tax is tax.
Yep.
And Austria also have
great food, guys.
Like labor knader,
zupy,
pomea, apfelstrudel with Vanillazose, Frosties, so, all is good.
Wienerwürstchen.
Wierstchen, Weizenbier, so, so, very good, very good.
And my necklaces.
Holy shit, That sounded weird.
Take care.
Doodles, cans, and goats.
But yeah,
Renderpool's starting soon, so let's
wrap it up here. I'm
wishing you the best, best weekend.
Have fun. Enjoy. Renderpool.
Enjoy. Meet at a clubhouse
today. Have fun. Build some cool MML objects.
I want to see those, so hit me up in DMs.
MML objects, UMFR, I don't want to see anything else, okay?
And have fun, you know, that's what it is about.
Anyone want to share anything, go ahead, I will find the clapping hands song and we can wrap it up, guys.
You gotta have the clapping hands song. It won't be the same.
Grateful Show will never be the same without the clapping hands song.
So yeah, find that, you MFR.
Oh, sorry.
Let's go, everybody.
This was Grateful Show 446, let's go!
Clap your hands, clap your hands!
Damn Flavor Flav kind of sounds like Alpha D Gen 2 man, that's wild!
Do you hear it too? too man, that's wild.
Do you hear it too?
I'm more like Chuck D, not what? I'm not what?
I'm not what?
The band's a fall of this third
interception of the earth in the middle of the universe.
Then why is this first coming six-time rehearsed?
For freestyle, but by a runner like such,
we need some screens controlled by the feed.
What is it?
All this shit I'm seeing.
Rumor, pe one being screaming,
vocal yelling signs of a local crowd
rambling to the house.
But why do they got my ass running?
With prices and all is prices.
And you think I'm never doing nicest?
